I’m trying to figure out if you read my comment and picked up what I was putting down. Power & Money influences everything. Laws/Taxes are never going to punish either, too much. You can’t push them so far that they move out of the country. With a certain amount of money or power you can literally do anything. So in a way, yes banks/big businesses do make the laws. Not even mentioning those powers literally influencing those in Office. Not to mention a lot of people in office have stocks in all these big businesses. They will not punish themselves as well.
All of this to say, if you voted Trump because you’re against corruption, you better find another example.
Honestly I think anyone using that argument would be deluded. In my opinion, at certain level of politics you run out of honest people (towards the top). Corruption in one form or another is just part of the Game of Thrones.
I think this election cycle, the closest to it was Sanders. Other than that, you’re never going to fully change government but you can find an honest person. They are out there. Money doesn’t matter to some people, in the way of it’s just a material. Some people can’t be bought. That’s exactly what we need in a President.
Like the old Romans, we need a man/woman of the people. To some, Trump is that man.
Unified? By a man who talks the Nazi party line? I don’t think so. I never thought that this could be possible, but I have severely underestimated the stupidity of the American populace. For the first time in my life, I am ashamed of my country. The fact that this man will be our president is horrifying.
I always find it hilarious that Anti-Trump people insult anyone who doesn’t agree with them or sees something differently.
You get called every name in the book: racist, sexist, stupid, hateful
But yet I have never said a bad word to anyone (at least not on purpose). It seems to me like if you’re spouting off all the insults you should instead consider what’s wrong with yourself to make you feel the need to verbally attack others.
The nastiness in this election goes both ways of course, but the most hatred I’ve seen personally has come from Clinton supporters honestly.
But I guess people will just say “Trump incites violence!” And brush off their own behavior
Have you met andrew johnson? If trump is worse than him, then america is doomed. I would like trump to be impeached personally but he now has the benefit of the doubt from me. I want to have hope that even though i do not like someone that they are capable of good. He has 100 days to show he is better than obama and andrew johnson.
Considering that Andrew Johnson lived 100 years before I was born, no, I have not met him. And giving Trump the benefit of the doubt is why we have the present mess. Hope all you want. Hold your hope in one hand and spit in the other; see which one gets filled first.
I did not give him the doubt until after the election was over. His background is terrible. It is after he has one that i give him my benefit of doubt. [quote=“RiverSong, post:176, topic:6700”]
Considering that Andrew Johnson lived 100 years before I was born
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Sorry poor choice of words on my part. I was using statistics of vetoes turned/overturned as i had mentioned and i just realized i was talking to you in two threads.
Open your eyes and look around. The nastiness even on here is coming from people attacking Trump supporters. And why don’t you read my full post where I said there is horrible behavior on both sides?
I voted for trump because there wasn’t anyone better in my opinion. It’s not as if I’m a hardcore fan who will defend his every move. I’m reasonably unbiased to where I am just standing back and watching everyone else argue and keeping my own opinions to myself while people jab at each other. It’s horrifying sometimes.
To every hater out there, you had your turn with Obama, now is the American People’s turn, the Silent Majority. Just because our values don’t 100% line up with your values does not mean your values or our values are wrong. We have a difference of opinion. We need to work together so we can help the forgotten vets, workers and others whom have been unemployed because of “Global Warming”. We need to make sure EVERYONE in the USA is able to work, we must stop all the off shoring of our jobs so that what we buy is $1 cheaper.
@Mekkalyn I fully agree with how much hatred has come from the LEFT and much less from the RIGHT, I see it, I hope others can see it. If we want a united country, its going to take CHANGE from ALL SIDES!
Much less hatred from the right? Every day those people wake up is hatred. Trump supporters don’t need to say a single word. Their candidate said all the nastiness anyone ever needed to in a single bound. A Trump vote says all the nastiness that it ever needed to.
If I were a Trump supporter, i’d really want the people to know why I voted for him. Because right now you all are getting grouped up with the racists, sexists, and nut jobs. In other words, the right. And honestly? I’m not sure it looks any other way. You’re still at least crazy.
You know, it continues to amaze me that the American left, the self-proclaimed champions of inclusion and tolerance, continuously label their opponents as crazy, racist, bigoted, mysoginists without ever gathering any evidence beforehand.
That, folks, is not tolerance. It’s vitriolic demagoguery, being practiced by the very people that supposedly abhor it.
I define crazy as someone that listens to a man say he’s deporting a massive number of illegal immigrants, building a wall, not afraid to use nukes, grabs women by the fluffy, alienates entire religions, says the police need to stop and frisk, give the police more power, implement martial law, destroy NATO, and invites Russians to hack us. That’s just getting started, that’s not even close to all he’s said.
Yeah you’re right, that’s not crazy, that’s effing lunacy.
And in case you didn’t get the picture, that my friends is what we call Un-American.
The truth is the same vitriol comes from a vocal minority on both sides. Seeing each other as enemies and somehow lesser than ourselves is a big part of what got us in this mess to begin with (this “mess” being two candidates that most people weren’t exactly thrilled about). I dislike Trump and I dislike Hillary but I can still see why people might have felt compelled to vote for either. The problem isn’t the 50% of people who voted one way or the other, the problem is there were only two mediocre choices, at best…and mediocre is being nice.
If you voted for Hillary because she said she championed a cause you hold dear, even though I may not agree, you’re cool with me. If you voted for Trump because you felt he was the only way to change a corrupt system, even though I may not agree, you’re cool in my book, too. By and large, the American people aren’t idiots or racists or broken in some fundamental way; by and large, people are just people and, faced with a horribly broken system, most of them made the best decision they thought they could. I can’t hate on anyone for that no matter how different our ideologies.
This is not really true, it is these two choices were the ones we were told to vote for or else. The or else part comes from the whole wasted vote mentality. We had really good candidates for the third and fourth party. What we need right now is a government much like england has. (the way they operate not the way they still have some sort of monarchy, i do love the queen though.) Everything else you said, i have no argument against.
