USA Presidential Election

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  1. If you think like a business person, like Mark Cuban, Shark Tank people etc… they ALL offshore as much as possible… Why? Because we have tax codes that allow for this. Trump wants to end these loopholes, as he is seeing how damaging this is to our country.

  2. Building a wall is a deterrent, it may not be Physical Wall, can be Digital, etc… but its like a Car Alarm, it doesn’t always stop a thief, but it does slow many down. Sometimes gives warning in advance where if there was no alarm, it allows for more thieves to be successful.

  3. Trickle Down is what we have with Hillary! If you think Increasing Taxes on Corporations wont effect you, you are WRONG. Pretend you own the company. When taxes on corporations go up, the product costs go up which YOU ARE PAYING, not the corporation. Now your increased costs of money spent for the same product ends up making the corporations reduce staff as well, why pay more when we can just lay people off? Ask yourself… Do you want more government jobs? Or Free market jobs? Walmart is a Hillary Supporter… Walmart is one of the biggest abusers of policies that the Clintons have enacted where they pay employees CRAP, don’t have to give insurance or benefits because no employees work the minimums.

  4. If you don’t pay attention to him and only believe Main Stream Media, then you are a sheep.

  5. When he becomes president, he will renegotiate our Trade Deals, Cancel the bad policies that our hurting the average american and then work on getting laws to block the loopholes.

This is something you probably didn’t know… He does want to decrease Corporate Tax to 15% instead of the 35-45% we currently have.

Now Hillary wants to increase that corporate tax rate… why would a business invest here or stay here if more than 40% of their profits must leave their pockets? Ask yourself… if you had billions, would you invest in america with 40% tax rate, or Mexico with 20% tax rate? Now you can still sell products in america, and now you actually pay less taxes. So why?

Right now even at 35-45% tax rate, there are so many write offs that many corporations PAY $0 in taxes, we the people foot their bills. We need to remove these write offs, reduce the taxes to entice business to move/invest here.

Trump’s tax plan of 15% also REMOVES many Tax Writeoff’s that corporations currently can take, which ends up that the government will get more money than they currently do. So in the end, corporations will be paying more to the government.

I agree with what you say about hes only an executive branch, however he shows he is willing to work very hard for the people, hes willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done right.

If you have never made a mistake in your life, I applaud you… but if you really think that a BILLIONAIRE that has been around Beautiful Women his entire life yet never had any accusations of Sexual Harassment, even owning Miss USA and other companies… you must know the accusations are paid for. The 12yr old “rape” case was dropped, it was found out they paid for this person to make this accusation. Democratic Party has been very dishonest and very shameful… I’m an independent, not Republican and have voted Democrat most of my life. However the Darkness that has been shown from the Democrats this year has made me really think about what they stand for. They say they want to help the small people, but their policies lead to more unemployment, less benefits at work, and more expensive healthcare.

Where did we go wrong, when we Treat Illegals and Refugees better than our Veterans whom fought for our Freedoms?

Hillary caused the Syria Problem, Hillary Caused the ISIS problem, sure not directly, but indirectly from every policy she has touched. You know whom benefited from those policies? Hillary did… shes become rich because of them. Any politician whom becomes rich while working in office should have all assets taken away, unless those assets came from a company/product that did not benefit from any policy enacted by that politician.

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im muting this thread, i cant. its on my facebook, its here. my family is split in half. hatred spewing from both sides.

reminder - most religions have 1 thing in common (not the churches or the zealots, but the teachings themselves)
Be kind and treat others like you want to be treated,

keep this in mind, meditate on it, live it.

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Yeah I’ve been off FB for about 2 years now (well I still have an account so it reminds me of people’s birthdays but I don’t login, I don’t post and I don’t read) and it was one of the best decisions I’ve made in recent years.

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I think your misunderstood about trump.

  1. Should we jail dishonest or reporters whom are supposed to only report the truth, when they lie? Or maybe just fine them? Who can we trust if our media is dishonest? So I feel this is pretty fair as they have a very important job to the people. To make sure they know the TRUTH and not their OPINION.

  2. Trump himself is pro LGBTQ, What Pence believes is right for him, and your beliefs are right for you. I believe as long as your happy, so be it… do whatever you want with whomever you want and no one should force you to be anything your not.

  3. I would have rather voted for Bernie, but there were some flaws with some of his policies as well… We will never 100% agree on every policy a politician wants. They say if you can agree with approximately 80% then your doing well. He does not believe minorities should be on the back of the bus or drinking from separate water fountains. He opened a Mixed Controversial Club in the late 70s or early 80s and he was fighting for minorities and women most of his life. He did deny “welfare/low income” housing people from living in his apartment building, it had nothing to do with race, but of course the media will always make it into the headline story instead of reporting the truth.

  4. Trump has more women working in his VP roles than Men, he pays them Equal or better than Men, so using what you said is not correct. Woman or Man, a president is a president. You’re counting on that 1 person regardless of sex.

  5. Democrat owned company, wonder why they did that? maybe Obama Care? Why not increase prices? They have abused government funding for personal gain. Take a look at the whole picture. Trump wants to lower these costs, import drugs from other countries if local businesses are gouging the americans like epi-pen.

  6. I don’t know what Trump has to do with this… only know that Bill Clinton has abused more women, and soon he may be back into the “intern sex office”. If you feel this is what best fits our society, then Hillary is your women. You do know Hillary and Bill has been reported to have visited “Sex island” and slept with underage children. However there is no real way to prove this, so take it with a grain of salt.

  7. If your for Veterans, then you must be for Trump… Hillary has been in politics for YEARS and never helped our vets. Donald Trump has done more in the last 1 year for vets than Hillary has in her 30+ years of office. I have Vets in my family as well, and they get treated like dirt compared to Illegals and Refugees.

Hillary and Human right for women right? Ask her why 25%+ of her campaign is funded by Countries that support Terrorists and Raping/Beating of Women, and they are 2nd class citizens in those countries. Why? If she really cared, why would she accept this “dirty money”? Why is she still accepting it? Why did she sell weapons to these terrorist countries?

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To a certain extent, I envy your ability to see the world in only black and white. As I said before, being anti-Trump doesn’t make me pro-Hillary. Nor does being anti-Hillary make me pro-Trump but that distinction seems lost on you. Based on your writings, I seriously doubt there is anything I could say that could shake you from your convictions that you are the keeper of the truth, so I will bid you adieu and I hope that you find whatever peace you are looking for out of this “election.”

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[spoiler][quote=“AeroCloud, post:138, topic:6700”]
He wants to bring manufacturing back to America
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why has he not brought his overseas businesses back to america yet?[quote=“AeroCloud, post:138, topic:6700”]
He wants to improve our security of our borders from unknown threats (human smuggling, drugs, terrorism)
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He has to take on the corruption in the mexican government first which might start a war, and considering the fact that we already are in a war.[quote=“AeroCloud, post:138, topic:6700”]
He wants to reduce corporate taxes so we entice businesses to move to America and/or invest here
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If he paid taxes i would agree with you here, but looking at the tax code that is going to be hard to confirm.[quote=“AeroCloud, post:138, topic:6700”]
He wants to block business loopholes that abuse our Taxes and import/export rates which is killing American jobs
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This would affect him too. Basicly an oroboros.

you have three levels of insurance.
You have the free kind which is for disabled and impoverished people. Caresource/medicaid/medicare
you have affordable care act, which is for middle and upper middle class. [quote=“AeroCloud, post:138, topic:6700”]
what worker can afford to come out of pocket up to $25,000 before insurance pays anything yearly? Seriously? Affordable to who?
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And i was able to explain this easily.
Then you have the insurance you pay for outright.
One more thing, he has had legal issues going back as far as 1970s, can we trust that?[quote=“kzintiwife, post:141, topic:6700”]
its about human rights. i dont think hilliary is gonna be better than the normal… but at least shes not going to rip them to shreds.
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i see her being either as effective as obama or more effective than obama, why? no republican government lock-up that destroyed obama care.[quote=“AeroCloud, post:142, topic:6700”]
Trickle Down is what we have with Hillary!
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started by bush, let’s never forget how he handed a mess to obama.

how is he going to play hard ball when his efforts have led to nothing with the mexican government. [quote=“AeroCloud, post:142, topic:6700”]
corporate tax rate
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will not affect her but it would affect yum foods and such.[/spoiler]
look when you are ready. i spoiled it so that it is easier to talk outside of the politico. I have nothing on trump, he is doing what i expect a reality tv host to do. It makes sense because he has been a public figure since 1972-3. I have nothing on hillery either, she and her husband did well when they were in charge of the government for the last 2 terms he had. stein is like a female bernie sanders, which is the best of both worlds. what i am trying to do is not swing voters but make you think of your choice and re-think if they are good or if what they are doing is really what you want and the likelihood that they will do as promised. Oh ya then there is johnson. For those not aware this is an election based on gender, just like obama’s was based on race. Those who have recognized this have cast their vote on just this aspect alone. Who do you think will win this election when people are scared of being called sexist? Also this whole trump vs hillery was going on during the primaries, so it is really old.

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  1. He was a business man, how can you compete in this country without doing what every other company is doing? When we allow imports into our country without Tariffs, and we don’t export as much as we import… those losses come from the American people’s wallets. Not corporations because they will just outsource and make money anyways. He does have 500+ businesses and majority of his businesses are profitable and successful. Many of which employ Americans. However the LEFT/MSM always takes anything and blows it into astronomical proportions.

  2. Mexican Government has nothing to do with wanting to secure our country. If they wanted to Rid themselves of the corruption, they would have asked for our help years ago. Lets face it, the Drug Cartels make money and that brings jobs to their country. Why would they want to stop it? And lets not forget that the Politicians in that country are just as corrupt as the drug cartel. We can secure our country without worrying about Mexico.

  3. I’m sure he has paid “some” taxes, I’m sure he pays Sales Tax, Employment Taxes etc… but as I have said previously, Hillary and all her Cronies (Was trump as well before he ran for office) all pay little to NONE in taxes… This is because our laws ALLOW it… not because its illegal, and Trump is running to change this. He actively wants this changed.

  4. He is watching our country get poor, because of our failed policies… this is why hes running to make a REAL CHANGE!

  5. Why would someone want to work, when 80% of their paycheck is going to healthcare costs? Will this increase the work force or decrease it? Prior to ACA, My family paid around $700/mo with $5k family deductible… Now We pay almost $1500/mo and $14k deductible for LESS COVERAGE! You know what this has done? It has caused me to become “self insured” and not buy the healthcare. I pay around $100 a month for my family for “Major Medical” $10k+ before they cover anything, and I just save a little money to pay cash for doctors. This has saved my family from having to work 3 jobs just to have healthcare. I call it the Unaffordable Care Act

  6. Explain why I’m working 3 times harder than another person so they get better insurance than I do? Am I penalized for working? Why should we work? Maybe the government can give me FREE stuff… After all its not coming from the Government or the Ultra Rich, its coming from the Average worker who cant write off stuff like the Brokers, Bankers and cronies of Hillary.

  7. Obama was not successful unless you feel that “Race Division” was successful. How about sending 1.7 billion in Unmarked CASH to Terrorist Nation of Iran? How do you feel about giving them 150 billion? Obama was so successful with “cleaning up from bush” that ISIS was born, and now many Americans have died from it. Lets all blame the prior president, after all every president had to come after every previous president. If your not willing to takeover from the prior president, you should not have run for president in the first place. I always hated when I heard this crap from either side.

  8. We will renegotiate the trade deals, this is very important, we cannot keep bleeding money out of our country and expect to pay people money they doesn’t exist here anymore. Really think about this… We are losing about 700 billion in negative trade deficits EVERY year… Our country currently has around 1.43 trillion in USD in circulation, if were losing 1/2 our money every year to other countries… No wonder were now 20 trillion in debt because of our current “great” president. Adding an additional 10 trillion in debt…

This is old, however its very important we elect someone NEW to office, not the same old policies that put us in the bad spot we currently are. We are going down, and going down hard… Wake up people! Wake up!

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Make Amercia Great Again!

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Measure twice, cut once. This election from the beginning was always hillery vs trump and i do not mean after the primaries. I mean before the primaries were over it was clear how the media felt about those two. Corporations have taken control of our politics from the shadows and this maybe the first time that a billionaire businessman will take the seat of power. A background check on the candidates would have probably saved us a lot of time. Neither of the two major candidates are clean. We had our chance to get rid of corruption. Now it is too late. $ more years of corruption regardless of who wins.

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Trump wins *)

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Idiocracy has come to fruition.

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Idiocracy > Corruption

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Corruption like not paying workers, or taxes? hmm. No i’d never take idiocy over anything.

Trump owes his win to uneducated white people. Let that sink in. 1 more check in that box.

Trump runs the most corrupt “empire” if you want to call it that, I don’t. He’s not a billionaire, he’s basically bankrupt. He doesn’t pay workers to build that. His college is not a college. He doesn’t donate to charity at all, in fact he makes money off it.

Again, I realize i’m trying to speak to people that don’t take common sense, but still. It’s crazy what you all come up with.

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Trump wasnt required pay taxes because of tax laws ment to enrich the rich. Blame our lawmakers for that tax issue and other fuped laws and nonsence

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(or is it too early for a tiny topic-relevant meme?)

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You’ll be sued for that defamation soon.

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Nah, we had that kind of “overlords” in Poland for a while now, I’m not locked up yet - doubt I’m worth the effort halfway across the world. (luckily ours are toothless, irrelevant country without any actual power)

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I just wanted to hyperbole it up for a sec. I really don’t think this election will have much effect on anything in the long term. An oompa loompa vs a garden gnome.

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Which is exactly why we call banks and big businesses, “corrupt.”

We the American people.

These entities that become so big or rich that you have no choice but to work with them. You can’t break them or you lose too much.

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To be fair it’s not the banks who make those laws (unless we go into the discussion about who’s “actually” in power because they’re the financial background of any candidate).

I’m looking forward to seeing how much of the nonsense Trump shared with everyone during the campaign was nothing more than that, appealing by shock to specific groups of ppl, that secured him sufficient votes. I wouldn’t be surprised if he made a big turn on some things now that it’s over.

On the other hand if he intends to fulfill his promises (which would be pretty ironic, seeing how barely any politician ever does hah), things might get a little scary. Wouldn’t that be funny? :smiley: if he was the president who was the most honest in his campaign and fulfilled the most of his promises.

Personally I find the entire situation interesting from the sociological point of view. One could say that for the first time the evil known has been chosen. Is he stupid? Maybe, maybe not - I doubt it, if he was, he wouldn’t be where he is. Is he radical and “out of the box”? For sure. Up until now any candidate who took the white house owed ungodly amounts of money (or well, “favors”) to the people who provided the financial support necessary to win. International conglomerates, including banks, were indirectly (or more directly) affecting policies and laws. Now there’s someone who maybe (just maybe?) is not owned by anyone.

Not sure if he’s the right person to be let loose, time will show I suppose