Harold MEME Thread

Steam generally gets updates whenever there’s a new event. So it will update fairly often.

We haven’t touched the AI recently, as we’ve been too busy with server migrations and development on Guild Wars. Having said that, we may tweak it in the future, but if we do it will likely be in a major patch update and we will make you aware of it.

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It’s so great to see a dev response here. Thanks a million.

What would you suggest I am seeing? I get the “bad run” nature of RNG as I dev’ed casino-style games for many years, and unless I just won the lottery 90 times in a row I’m quite dubious that nothing is happening… unless of course… nothing IS happening and this is epic RNGesus hate.

(I have never in a year b***ched about this kind of thing lol)

Not a dev here, obviously, but did you take any video of what’s been happening to you today? I’m just curious to see how this looks against the occasional bursts of rage-inducing “it can’t possibly be random” randomness that my wife and I get on console sometimes. Not second guessing you; I find you to be a credible witness.

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I take no offense. Questioning what I’m saying is fine.

I started to record my PvP today to show some of my ludicrously-potent builds all assembled into a greater purpose, to make my “PvP Rank 1 in 1 hour” video. I got an hour in and I hadn’t won 3 fights.

I struggled to Rank 11 then I rage-deleted all the footage because it was waaaaay too late for the video to possibly come together as-envisioned. It was only after taking a full 6 hours to get to Rank 1 that I clued in. Normally I Rank in just over 1 hour of play.

edit: I really should be recording because nothing has changed yet.

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I’m not seeing it right now but I was definitely seeing it a week ago or so. Since it seems to have corrected itself recently, I’m going to suggest (for now) that it’s just a run of bad luck.

I can’t believe you stuck with it for that long. If I get three of those matches in a row, I just shut the game down for the sake of my health. I usually try to at least get a win as a palate cleanser (one of my old basketball coaches taught me to never leave the practice court on a miss), but what you’re talking about would override any considerations like that.

If things ever get back to normal for you, I’d definitely watch that video. Usually takes me about 2-3 hours of play time to get to rank 1, though I think the console plays a touch slower than PC/Mobile.

No, the AI does not cheat against the player. At low levels, it cheats for the player, however. (This assumes you accept there is no belligerent intent to mislead on the developer’s part. If you do not accept this precondition, then no amount of evidence will suffice to disprove the allegation.)

Note that the bit about the combo breaker is out of date. The combo breaker does in fact still exist, but it is gradually phased out as the player levels and at high level (I don’t know what level), the combo breaker is always off now – which translates into a fair field, but not one biased against the player in any way.

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This is a good idea. I think I’ll take a break from the forum and game once I do my guild weeklies. Games should always be fun. I think I might have forgotten that for a moment :slight_smile:

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So if you are loosing 4/5 matches can you please provide a screenshot of your current weeks pvp report? I would be curious to see your 20% winrate.

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No sir, you are not imagining things. Noticed this a few weeks back and tbh I laughed and thought wow I just had my first Console moment on PC. Lol, I lost a few matches last week.
I haven’t noticed it this week but will keep an eye out

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For the record, @KrudlerTheHorse, around the time you posted these thread comments I was complaining in guild chat about How come I’ve done 9 PvP fights (thank God without losing) but I’m still only Tier 13? That struck me as rather unusual.

Did levelling up recently or increasing your stats in a significant way change anything?

You get slightly less PvP points. For me, picking the easiest of the three offered invades is usually worth around 15 points. You need more than 200 points to get from tier 15 to tier 12, so depending on your mix 9 invades might not be enough.

can you observe are the effects present for you only on steam or is it just as well on mobile?
can you test also another account if possible?

for me nothing changed and even the basic “ai rules” as “take skulls first” is still preserved

increasing your stats does affect your pvp. i can confirm that. i am in lower level guild right now. i have no extra stats from guild task. the team power drop significantly. the pvp fight has more variation :slight_smile: and if i had to fight harder teams, the rewards are so much higher, about 1.8k-2.1k gold and 64 pvp points.

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Just one extra confirmation from me that nothing changed (as @Andrew and @Lyya pointed out).

Could the difficulty be a result of some of the recent balance changes to some of the legendary troops?

As an aside, regarding luck, I would actually like to run another focus test at some point about the “Perception of Streaks of Luck”, to examine the following question:
Given Player A who just won Game #1, and Player B who just lost Game #1… if they BOTH experience the same amount of luck in Game #2, does Player B believe he was unluckier than Player A?
In other words, does some bad luck, color your perception of the next series of events to make you think you are actually unluckier than you really are?
I suspect it might… but I would love to pull some numbers on that.

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I am thinking that I have just experienced what can only be described as the most epically epic run of epically epic bad luck epic epic that I have ever epic had (epic)

Also, those are the kinds of tests dreams are made of.

##epic

######(the word epic no longer seems like a word)

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Hey… if it happens 5 more times, you can ascend it to a legendary run of legendarily bad luck that will be the stuff of legend!

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I would also like to apologize. Clearly my ranting has perked some ears.

I’ll say this and bow out: I would not have said jack-poopie if I didn’t really (144 pt font for “really”) think I was observing something real. And after hour 2 I gave it 4 more hours to be “sure”.

Lesson learned, tail between legs.

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No - all good. I mean, as I was actually saying to someone today… we’re in the business of selling fun.
If too much RNG isn’t fun, we should be examining how to improve that, so we DO like to read everyone’s feedback, warts 'n all.

On the other hand, turning down the RNG and “cheating” in the player’s favor often leads to less fun… because you’ve removed the “danger”… that’s where the art (or science, depending on your viewpoint) of the process comes into it really - tuning the game to get the most appropriate settings for the widest number of players. For which we need feedback!

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Totally understandable. I’ve had a full run for a day where I lost with my A-teams against even some low ranked teams. I wasn’t willing to say you were seeing things, because I’ve seen too many weird things with the AI. Mostly things that seem to come down to the race conditions with mana converters.

I wish I had all those matches on video, to know if I was tired and played entirely incompetently, or just odd random drops. Most days I know if I’ve half-dokneyed my play when I lose a match. This week I’ve had the AI tank a few matches for me.