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Upcoming weekend

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7.75 hours of fun…

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Split it into 3 days → you’ll have some rest between :wink:

My method of using Gnome-a-Palooza is to get to a respectable number of gnomes in the counter and then stop using verses and just do not gnome farming. The reason being that verses drop far less often now during Gnome-a-Palooza, so you aren’t restocking them. And, each Gnome-a-Palooza yields less Vault Keys in the Gnome Counter.

To explain the last point a bit more in-depth: you can kill ~168 gnomes during the 15 minutes, which is 42 battles, 21 seconds per battle, 2.8 battles per minute on average. That was using a Greed/Dust Devil/2x Ironhawk team. You could potentially do slightly faster using Sister Superior. You’d maybe get like 180 gnomes (20 seconds per battle).

So the first Gnome-a-Palooza you do is going to get you between 7 and 8 vault keys from the pity counter. You need 140 min gnomes to get 7 keys, and 180 gnomes to get 8 keys.

However, the next one you do is going to get you far less. Minimum being 168*2 = 336 gnomes in 30 minutes, that’s 11 keys. That means the first 15 minutes got you 7 keys, and the next 15 minutes only got you 4 keys. And it just goes down from there. The next 15 minutes gets you only 2 more keys. This table is based on 168 gnomes killed per 15 minute increment. The part to pay attention to is how quickly it ramps up. For instance, vault keys 1 through 11 only require 2 Gnome-a-Paloozas. But to go from 11 to 16, you need another 2. To go from 16 to 20, another 2. From 20 to 23, another 2.

Over time then, as verses run out, you’ll want to save them to blow through the early levels, guaranteeing a certain number of vault keys. My recommendation would be to use like 1-2 hours of gnome-a-palooza verses, and then do normal gnome farming after that.

Gnomes Required Vault Keys Total Total Gnomes Gnome-a-Palooza # Hours
5 1 5 0.03 0.01
10 2 15 0.09 0.02
15 3 30 0.18 0.04
20 4 50 0.30 0.07
25 5 75 0.45 0.11
30 6 105 0.63 0.16
35 7 140 0.83 0.21
40 8 180 1.07 0.27
45 9 225 1.34 0.33
50 10 275 1.64 0.41
55 11 330 1.96 0.49
60 12 390 2.32 0.58
65 13 455 2.71 0.68
70 14 525 3.13 0.78
75 15 600 3.57 0.89
80 16 680 4.05 1.01
85 17 765 4.55 1.14
90 18 855 5.09 1.27
95 19 950 5.65 1.41
100 20 1050 6.25 1.56
105 21 1155 6.88 1.72
110 22 1265 7.53 1.88
115 23 1380 8.21 2.05
120 24 1500 8.93 2.23
125 25 1625 9.67 2.42
130 26 1755 10.45 2.61
135 27 1890 11.25 2.81
140 28 2030 12.08 3.02
145 29 2175 12.95 3.24
150 30 2325 13.84 3.46
155 31 2480 14.76 3.69
160 32 2640 15.71 3.93
165 33 2805 16.70 4.17
170 34 2975 17.71 4.43
175 35 3150 18.75 4.69
180 36 3330 19.82 4.96
185 37 3515 20.92 5.23
190 38 3705 22.05 5.51
195 39 3900 23.21 5.80
200 40 4100 24.40 6.10
205 41 4305 25.63 6.41
210 42 4515 26.88 6.72
215 43 4730 28.15 7.04
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If they ever nerf the amount of vault keys that drop duing palooza you will wish you’d used them all up. I used up all mine last gnome event so I will be starting this event with 0 ready to go. My plan is to farm verses for an hour then do 1 or 2 paloozas (or however many I found during the last hour) to break the boredom.

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That’s how I feel about the nerf to verses during gnome-a-palooza. I played the crap out of them during the day, that Thursday, then that night I played other games, figuring I’d have all weekend to do Gems of War gnomes. Nope, they nerfed it the next day. I would have had 100+ verses of each.

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I’m pretty sure I went like 10+ full explore runs (~51-52 battles) in my previous G-A-P.
Team was: Slayer/2x dust Devil/1x Ironhawk. But that’s just a side note.

Gnome tracker was a feature added for those of us, who were frustrated that even they were farming gnome whole week, they didn’t get a single VK. It has very big diminishing returns in terms of time spent/vk’s gained. G-A-P is somehow leveling it between hardcore grinders and more casual players → like you’ve said above, there’s little to no benefit between using 2 G-A-Ps vs 3 or 4 in single vault weekend.

That’s current financial plan for GoW → some timed events (like Gnome/Arena weekend) theoreticaly can be grinded without any restrictions, but scaling counters, pretty quick make dimishing returns so high, that it becomes time inefficent to grind it above a fixed tier…(that tier varies for every player)

Just because the first few GAPs give the best value doesn’t mean you should stop there. You should do as many as you can each vault event.

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Just did my 1st GaP this weekend and killed exactly 168 gnomes (but that included almost 2minutes long 1 pvp battle).

Not sure if that brings anything to the topic, but that number coincidence shook me a bit

E: without pvp battles I was able to get 188 gnomes in GaP with 2nd run-> 47 battles total.

I use one every hour to trigger a pet in PvP then switch to key farming in level one explore. I generally finish the weekend with more verses than I started with by grinding for the rest of the hour in between the GAPs

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168 is a pretty good baseline for doing level 1 explores using Greed+Dust Devil. The reason to use Greed is that during Gnome-a-Palooza, you get more gold (in my case, around 600+ more gold per battle). That’s ~100k more per hour, minus the very minimal extra gold I would get from squeezing in a few more fights using Sister Superior.

Reason i’m using 2x dust devils + hero is that i dont have 2 ironhawks :wink:

So far I’ve killed 1885 gnomes (130/135), like 99% of them during Gnome-a-Palooza, and I’ve gotten, from kills (not from the pity vault keys), 137 vault keys, and 19 epic vault keys. That’s 7.3% and 1% drop chance.

I suspect the rate for the keys would be lower outside of Gnome-a-Palooza because you’d get more verse gnomes, and they cannot drop keys.

When will this company invest some of their large gains into the servers? The lag is brutal. Either they don’t care, are unaware, or it’s strategic to slow us down even more. It’s ridiculous.

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After doing 10 GAPs, I’ve defeated 2223 gnomes. I’ve gotten 159 VKs & 13 EVKs total. Given the 10% key drop, and rounding down, I should have gotten 222 VKs & 22 EVKs.
That’s shorting me 63 VKs & 9 EVKs. Sure looks like a nerf to me.

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From what I could track, I have gained 183 regular and 17 epic vault keys. This is for 2533 gnomes. So, my rate looks like:
Regular => 7.2%
Epic => 0.7%
(with rounding up)

Gems of War servers are on Amazon Web Services.

Um…ok. I’m unsure how that explains the issue. It still seems like they don’t pay enough to support the required capacity during major events.

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In my first 12 hours I’ve found 437 vk plus 41 evk plus 48 pity keys. That’s 526 total in 12 hours. That’s over 40 per hour. :astonished: (I started with 0 GAP’s ready to go)

I remember back before pity keys and GAP’s existied I was farming about 1 vk per hour and my best ever vault event back then got me 69 vk. How times have changed lol.

At which platform do u play?

According to Fleg none changes were made at the consoles.