There wasn’t any major uproar, people were annoyed briefly more by the fact there was a trophy assigned to Xathenos rather than the fact the guild got it from an lt.
Its not about them getting them to Mythic… its what they get because they got them to Mythic. Their seals are no longer 50% wasted on getting the new guardians so they have a much better chance for new Mythics.
I’m just going to weigh in here
on one side was it a fair exploit, no but who’s to say those that originally got guardians out of gold chest knew about the glitch. should they have reported it, yes but by reporting it on the forums it would have spread like wild-fire and the effects would have been more extreme. but removing guardian troops gotten that way the devs would have had to reimburse the players in some way since there would be no way to tell who got the troops knowing about the glitch and those that found out by just luck of the draw.
now on the other side of the fence, there are those that want to get the equivalent of how some got them but just being given in-game res. but by doing that it’s not really punishing the people that did exploits because it will only encourage those to do it again next time because instead of being punished the devs will just give the rest of the player base free goods as well which will only hurt the game in the long run
so no matter what happens one side would be happy and the other side won’t. I think the best course of action is to meet players halfway. give out enough copies of the troop to players that didn’t get the troop to mythic level via gold to level it to epic and reduce the troops gotten to mythic by gold to epic and refund all res. used to draw the guardians from the gold chest so the refund is as follows (gold amount = to 1 chest draw (x) the number of copies needed to upgrade new guardian from epic to mythic. - any orbs used to ascend and 1 reg. ascension orb (x) number of orbs used to ascend troop)
The point isn’t lost on me, what’s baffling is this idea that it is some kind of easy fix. It’s only an easy fix if there was no other way that people could have the guardians at mythic. Since many people knew the new guardians were coming, they saved ascension orbs to get them to mythic. This means they’d have to go through logs of every person who has them at mythic. Demanding a fix is ignorant of the reality of what that would take.
The devs redesigned mail boxes (which arguably later led to the mail glitch) because 1 guild got over 100 LTs in a day and the devs had to manually resend the overflow to less than 30 people (I was in that guild). They aren’t going to fix this…game over.
This sure did get us to derail talks about how bad epic tasks were though
Just my conspiracy theory for the week lol
@Saltypatra when you get better, can you personally verify a dev has checked summoning stones to see if guild guardians can appear within?
If, after you verify this, it happens, can you personally commit to spilling an entire pot of fresh coffee in their lap while they are tied to a chair on stream? I will buy so many Rings of Wonder
I’m going to put my body on the line to answer this.
They cannot/did not appear in soulforge!
Soulforge has a few checks to see if a troop is valid:
Troop is not a seasonal imp- Troop is in any gold or glory chests from the last 3 weeks
- Troop is at least 4 weeks old
So the last one would have kept them out of soulforge.
(chests have been rexported for all weeks, so the second check would bounce guild guardians as well now)
EDIT: had the imp check wrong
When did this change? I have for sure crafted multiple different imps in the past. (For diamonds, not summoning stones… but since imps are legendary wouldn’t be in stones anyway right?).
If it was an “exploit” to craft those imps, well, guess I’m busted
He’s speaking only in regards to summoning stones.
All legendary troops (except the treasure one) are part of the legendary troop soul forge rotation.
Unless I misunderstood and he’s saying current seasonal imps are not in the forge.
I am a little confused now given the context of the Statement.
Yeah I’m just curious why there needs to be an anti-imp check on stones which don’t get legendaries anyway?
Maybe it’s a typo and it’s a non-GW-troop check? Since those are common?
Whoops I got that backwards. Imps are always allowed, i assume to work around them not always being in chests.
I believe a better punishment would be to only untie them after they’ve won a pure level 500 faction run in Dark Pits.
Firstly, nice to see a dev admit they were wrong, kudos to you.
Secondly, can you garuntee that though? Didnt gnomes appear the once in summoning stones?
So they would only have been excluded from showing up for the first four weeks, which has now been corrected?
Could you please also take a peek at the Tower of Doom event shop? That’s another somewhat likely source for surprise Guild Guardians.
Edit: Also Invasion Shop, the new Guild Guardians all have an extra tribe included to possibly make them candidates.
Treasure Gnome was definitely in once, that seems to have been changed though, haven’t seen one up for a long time.
This is what i mean, they intended for them not to appear, but they still did. A quick check wouldn’t hurt.
This is why I wanted an actual verification. I think it’d be useful to rig up the code as if the RNG generated a guild troop and watch to verify the code rejects it.
It’s one thing to look at the code and say, “Yep, I’m checking”, and a whole different level of confidence to write code that says it will scream if it happens and prove the code doesn’t scream.
It’s ambiguous if CliffyB just looked or did a test, but hey it’s his lap XD
I’ll just as this:
When i saw the Tauros one, i immediatly saw how ridiculous the troop is and used a greater Orb to make it Mythic.
So not all mythic are exploit, so they can’t Just revert it.
Really don’t know why I bother answering so I’m going to make this the last time.
If you got yours through guild chests then used an orb, why would anyone have a problem with that?
If you got it through ‘exploiting’ gold chests then you should have it reverted imho as it was not the right way to obtain them & hasn’t been done ‘in the way the game was intended to be played’ to quote the Devs.
But hey, whatever I say doesn’t matter as they CBA to change anything so it appears cheats really do prosper, one of the main reasons why my tenure in this game may be coming to an end…
100% agree and this is all people are asking for. Those that think we are saying to revert all of those Guardians are not reading the posts.