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New Faction - Sunken Fleet

Faction team will be a problem with the insistence of random death marks - Devs seem fascinated by death mark.

My first go at L20 normal team, the Drowned Sailor did death marks 3 times in a row!! Luckily I wrapped up quick.

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Awaiting comment from TheIdleOne, but I am guessing that the faction team is going to wind up looking like Queen/Elemental/Queen/Sailor. The Water Elemental’s spell is too useful to hide behind a second Queen, but having two Doomskull converters seems terribly handy.

We’ve got crabs!! :rofl:

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An empowered converter that gives Death marks…
Elementals with 50% mana starts…

PvP will be brutal. Oh wait, it already is.

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I think Suna is the Queen it was referring to?

Based on the official new post lore of Suna and Scorpious, the queen who defeat the fleet should be Suna instead of Titania.

And Suna, according to the lore, is technically Undead, as she was alive at the time Al-Maraji Empire still existed, then get poisoned and killed by Scorpious, then come back for revenge.

In my understanding, Scorpious never really died since then, as he was also called God-Emperor. He had been surviving all this time. Also, I think ancient Al-Maraji Empire is consist of current time Sin of Maraj, Leonis Empire and Drifting Sand. Leonis Empire seem to be the last part survived Suna’s attack and able to rebuild.

As for Sunken Fleet event, it probably happend after Suna is revived and destroyed some part of the Al-Maraji Empire, so Scorpious was sending a fleet to fight back. Based on the questline, The Maraji Queen, Scorpious’ ship, is likely builded in ancient port town of current Leonis Empire. Drown Sailors are probably the crews. Not sure about Crab Man, it’s either a local wildlife of Bright Forest/Underworld or cursed sailors. For Water Elemental, it was created by Suna as part of her troops to destroy the fleet. So, I don’t think Suna is evil as all, just defending her kingdom.

For the map part, it’s tricky. I guess map ratio of Overworld and Underworld are not the same, so related parts might not be directly below. Geography of the Underworld is so different as well, so I don’t think we can use the location of the Faction in the Underworld to assume the traveling path of the ship on Overworld.

Also I really miss the lore discussion. Really wish Lorekeeper or shorter weekly lore will be back soon. Lore is one of my favorite part of the game. Everything is not the same without it. :sob:

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I am too. “What tf is this? Why’s it here?”

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Anyone else seeing the same rooms over and over again, post-25 Tower of Doom style?

Added bonus, mine are consistently aquatically-themed.

To be specific: I’m over past 200 now, only doing the straight shot to the boss room, and the two rooms in between are always a combination of Dark Wave Pool, Coral Cave, Murky Deep, Smugglers Den and possibly Drowned Grotto. And this is in the event, not the daily three.

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Since you mentioned it, I’m paying attention now. Last 2 delves so far have exclusively aquatic-themed levels along the middle section (though not in the corners).

Which is frankly pretty awesome in terms of lore and theme, if inconvenient for the min/maxers.

“Aquatic-themed” is a lot easier to pin down - more common - than most others, might be interesting to hit up some of the undead factions or something and see what happens. Unless the devs have an explanation.

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Just saw the comment, I had a late start today, but indeed that’s what I gravitated to on my 100 attempt (accidentally did it with potions, yay?)…

Its not uncommon to cast Maraji Queen, then have another alignment show up for a 2nd Maraji Queen cast.

More importantly, Water Elemental doesn’t scale well for later delves without potions. With potions, its more valuable, but you can fill it fast enough with a +2 Blue banner and its Water Link trait. (I ended up going Sea of Sorrow banner over the faction banner).

On top of all that, If you happen to lose your Maraji Queen up front, you aren’t losing the 50% start if you have a 2nd one, though that remains to be tested (for me) if thats necessary or not.

Crab Man is a pointless troop and you fill too fast to need 2 Drowned Soldier. Even if you wanted to spam Death marks, you can fill it fast enough that you don’t need to spam 2 (since the 2nd one would have no presence besides DM spam).

That leaves 2 Maraji Queen or 2 WE and I find 2 TMQ more useful.

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I cleared 200 with two Water Elementals, I’ve got T6 worth of potions though. Looking at 250 but I got distracted by there being four legendary rooms and cleared it with non-faction stuff.

The thing is that you need a proper board setup for Maraji to cast, and if you don’t have it then having another doesn’t help - the traits also don’t help. Whereas Water Elementals can be cast at basically any time and the link trait stacks nicely.

Death mark in delve kind of sucks- your troops can pop on the 2nd term and then they’re gone for the rest of the battles. (not fun.)

As long as you get a few 3 match conversions, you typically clear the entire table using doomskulls.

its not too hard to cast Maraji.

If you can’t, you can still spam Water Elemental

Is it worth saving this one to farm at level 20?

Meh. It’s too easy for troops to wind up Submerged, which is irritating for a farm faction—all those useful “attack all enemies” spells are suddenly missing one or more targets. I think it’s still Silver Necropolis and Sea of Sorrow in terms of payouts (though I use SoS because I don’t want to try advancing with a faction team there!).

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Somewhere above is the numbers, and my interpretation of the numbers was “it’s hard to tell if Sunken Fleet is better than the next-best faction, we’ll have to wait and see.”

I think the “wait and see” results are summed up by Grundulum. The room layouts are likely to be annoying, so whatever tiny margin your multiplier might gain is sullied by that experience.

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Oh! I didn’t see he updated his post with the numbers. Thank ye

Seriously, devs, what’s the deal with this? I’m genuinely interested to know now. @Saltypatra ?

Two whole days and its consistently been the same teams in those rooms for me. Sort of hard to illustrate with screenshots or I’d do that.

Also Leviathan can stop now please.

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That was boring as hell. Same team all the time yaaaak