I always pay for F2P games. A few months ago I stopped because of the lycan bugs. The devs compensated me for my losses though.
Now with the Arachnean Weaver issue where people are not being refunded, I am losing interest. I keep opening GoW, then immediately closing it.
It is weird. I enjoy the game. I just have a tough time supporting the company. Every time I play I feel like I am saying it is OK to steal from people.
Then I feel more weird because playing a game shouldnāt make me question my own morals.
I donāt know what the point of this post is. Am I quitting? Thatās dramatic. Am I shaming the devs? Yes. Am I curious if others are struggling too? Yeah. Am I just rambling? Definitely.
I am so tired. Why canāt the devs agree stealing is bad?
I definitely felt like this for a bit and was turned off after logging in. Kind of settled into doing the basics just to keep some relevance in the game and keep going with the group activity. Still mulling things over, aiming to wind down.
I guess not having had any further responses makes it feel unresolved? Despite there having been a āfinal responseā, at least with regards to the information available to the support team.
Oh Iāve been struggling for months. Log in, clear dailies. I suppose clear enough world event that I donāt look stupid, if its the end of the week. But I have no serious interest and definitely no patience for literally anything going wrong. Get one-turned by Goblins? Out. Donāt need to play today.
Combination of not being interested in the game and not wanting much to do with whoever or whatever is responsible for all of these icky developer choices. Oh and not having as much time in my life is a factor too I guess, but if it wasnāt I would certainly be finding other games to play instead at this point. One could say that the only reason I havenāt dropped this is that its easier to continue playing it than it is to get into something new, but ā¦ if I no longer want to, Iām not going to.
Iāve declined in activity the last few months for my own reasons. To your point, though, itās really a gambit. The f2p genre as a whole is a casino. Theyāre games for the players, yes, but moreso a game of how much money can be pulled from players. Youāre never going to find a perfect company who is morally flawless and whose every decision you agree with. Donāt hear me saying that you shouldnāt voice your opinions and vote with your wallet and all that - you should - but at the end of the day, remember that what gaming should be about it having fun and enjoying the experience. Donāt expect perfection or moral uprightness from any company, especially in this genre, but if thereās something thatās keeping you from enjoying the game, then itās not a game anymore. Itās a chore.
Quit if you want to, or take a break, or put it down until you feel like playing again. Thereās no need for the big, dramatic exit speeches we see so often. If you want to play, play! But donāt force yourself.
FOMO is the genreās greatest weapon (well, that and preying on the addiction centers in our brains). Personally, while I aim for a complete collection, Iāve never gotten there and will certainly never be anywhere close to 100%ing this game. Iām okay with that. I play some days, I donāt other days. Itās about fun, my friend. Play what and when you want. Donāt expect perfection from a company, but donāt force yourself to deal with things that make a game un-fun for you.
The players requested a moral fair solution to AW debacle. We got its āworking as intended,ā and an unfair soulforge āsolutionā. There is only Gancha spin here. So while we still continue to play; everyone; please end each of your post with a reminder of their duplicitous depths. ADD: weavergate
This was the bit of wisdom that helped me transition from promoting this game as an oasis among f2p games, to warning users about this company: once you lower your expectations and realize that they are the ones who will have to live with their morally questionable (and often outright demonstrably deceitful) practices, it frees you from the burdens of being disappointed.
Sure, there are guildies that count on us et al, but that can be managed with a minimal time investment, and thereās nothing wrong with stepping down as a GM when we are semi-retired.
Personally, I find itās somewhat like a break-up once you realize the abusive partner is never going to change: itās disheartening at first to realize that much of it was an illusion, but in time we look back and āgood riddanceā keeps us from being blue.
My plan is to just do the basic minimums until I finish off these last 2 delves. That will give me a sense of completion and I can easily quit after that. All troops mythic, all delves done, all kingdoms 15.
We all know whatās coming next year, more FOMO, more subs on top of the current one, more monetization, more more more.
Yeah thatās effectively where I am as well. And Iāve been saying so for months now, so if they had any sense theyād be ramping out some new content that looked like delves / factions and wasnāt totally full of crap. Guess weāll see what happens in a few months, huh.
Same as everyone thatās responded. While Iām curious about whatās next (i.e. 6.0 update), Iāve gone from optimistic, to cautiously optimistic, to neutrally curious. Original GAP was amazing on release and gave me new interest in the game. Initial GAP nerf was still fun. Current GAP, is still great but oddly unsatisfying after experiencing the previous incarnations. And thatās how I feel with the direction GoW has been going for a while. Something fun and shiny and amazing, slightly tarnished by a change or bug, and then further smeared with bad communication and more bugs. In short, it feels like the fun and enjoyable aspect is diametrically opposed to the companies goals and direction. Youād think that a game that people want to play will also be one that they want to spend and this more profitable.
It makes me think of a game I recently picked up after a 2-year hiatus: Clash of Clans. Iām not saying that game is perfect by any means. Yet I was playing one day when I got an in-game notification of a bug fix for a bug that had been found that same day after the latest update. Then a fellow player encountered an annoying bug/feature and reached out to support. Reply received the same day resolving the issue.
I feel that 90% of the growing vitriol (always wanted to use that word) stems from the opaqueness of the company and communication. Right now, it feels like weāre in a vicious cycle:
A question is asked ahead of time, requesting clarification on a specific issue or warning of a possible impending problem
No communication until said situation happens, inevitably leading to issues
Outrage at issues due to lack of information
Defensive double-talk response or, in rare cases, admission of guilt and compensation
Everyone is so focused on the 3rd and 4th points, āForums are toxic,ā but with greater communication, most of these issues and toxicity would not be.
Remember how there used to be a button āSubmit a Ticketā in the game? 5.0 removed that button.
Have you noticed how theyāve been handling compensations since 5.0? People get told to
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āsubmit a ticketā
and theyāll send you your compensation!
What kind of business takes your money, does not give you what you paid for and when asked about it tells you thatā¦ āwell, if you submit a ticket and really, really insist, then maybe, just maybe, we could be bothered to send you what youāve already paid forā ?
What kind of Sicilian Mafia BS scheme is this that you have to put in a ticket and insist on getting what you paid for? Any legit operation would go through their logs and issue blanket compensations to those affected.
Deliberate denial of resources that everyone needs is what is turning me off. Pretty soon all players will be at the same level because we are all stuck waiting for imperial deeds still (I still havenāt had a single offer yet, despite the supposed upgrade). Why would I continue to invest time and money in the game if it doesnāt progress my position in anyway? Iāve stopped spending because there is nothing worth buying. The game seems totally incapable of offering me the resources i need so i never have the need to purchase anything.
Thereās been times Iāve taken 1-2 weeks off or drastically reduced my play time so I donāt burn out. There are aspects of this game that keep me playing and others I donāt bother with (arena, chasing gnomes and verses for gapās, and Tuesday factions if I donāt like the faction). As for the mythic cards, Iāve accepted Iāll never get all of them. So, I donāt worry about how long it takes to get 4000 diamonds.
When I get the 4000 diamonds, Iāll spend them when thereās a mythic I can see myself using for my play style and/or if itās a mythic I consistently see GW teams built around.
I was persuaded to start playing by an online friend in another game Iāve played for over 15 years. I do donate every month there to help support it, but they just have one thing to buy, and Item of the Month, buy as many or as few as you want for $10 each. Each character account can only activate one, and if you buy extras, you can trade them, send them to other players as a gift, sell them in the Mall, or closet them until they go up in game currency value after theyāre no longer available. Period. GoW bombards you constantly with buy buy buy buy and buy. Big money too!
Luckily I joined a guild within a few days of joining because I was so lost on how to play, and luckily itās a very casual relaxed guild, no pressure.
Then came a major (to me) problem. I have an 8" 2018 Kindle Fire, and a few months ago I bought the 10" 2021 newest edition Kindle Fire. I also have a 17" HP Pavilion laptop, my main gaming choice, but I also wanted to play on the 10" Kindle. I was able to play GoW on the 10" Kindle until the update. Now absolutely nothing will enable me to get the new version of GoW on the 10" Kindle. I can still play on the 8" Kindle for now, but I wanted to retire that and just use the new 10" Kindle for portable gaming, reading, audiobooks, internet, etc. The devs have tried to help, multiple suggestions and emails back and forth, but nothing works. I also contacted Amazon about the problem, but they couldnāt resolve it either.
So Iām not sure how much longer Iāll be playing GoW either because of the constant āpay money for this, pay money for thatā and the new version or update or whatever which no longer works on my portable device of choice. For now, I just think of it as something to relax with, not get serious about. JMHO.
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