Guild Wars and sisters guilds


#427

There are a great deal of assumptions being made in this statement. From past drama over this issue, the devs haven’t given me a single reason to believe that they routinely look at GW scores to ensure fair play.

Also, what guilds did the devs bust for actual collusion not botting? Two guilds were called out in the past for collusion. However, that was brought out in a messy public thread. They weren’t busted by the devs.

Frankly, the integrity of scores in GW seems very low on the dev priority list to me. They don’t even care enough about GW to make sure inactive guilds aren’t preventing active guilds from making reasonable progress up the brackets. shrug


#428

Memory is treacherous and perhaps I don’t remember right. This is part of why I don’t like “Oh, so and so said in a stream…” as a form of communicating with players and prefer short posts with actual quotes in them.

I still think, in the end, this is a problem that could be best monitored by the community if we could actually see what’s going on. But we can’t, so unless you manage to get someone to post a video confession to Youtube, it’s hard to prove. Screenshots are real easy to doctor:


#429

I agree that more transparency in GW would go a long way.

Also, I hate vanilla ice cream. :stuck_out_tongue:


#430

There are still evidences of guilds in bracket 1 proposing collusion to other guilds. Or at least there were until a couple of months ago. All evidences have been sent to devs


#431

The dev team has already addressed this. Collusion has a miniscule effect on the outcomes and they will take no action unless it can be shown to be having a lasting effect on the outcomes. This is just a witch hunt plain and simple.


#432

Continuing the discussion from Guild Wars (Guild Alliances and a Shift in Policy):

So yea, all guild collision is officially against the rules now.


#433

I think I am figuring this out.

I think its pretty clear.


#434

You are a terrible person, and will surely be cursed for all time for this insolence.


#435


#436

That sounds like something that happened before my time but I think what you said just backs up what I said.


#437

We have commented on this, at length, in the past.

Please keep this thread civil, if it devolves into callouts it will be closed.


#438

Take it to a DM! :wink::rofl::rofl::rofl:


#439

Sorry I haven’t had the time to read the forum these last weeks and I am catching up very late.

These two guilds had asked and received permission from the devs before the very first week of GoW. Back then the devs were neutral on that topic. They decided to consider it as cheating after that call out under the pressure of the forum.

As it has been mentioned in the last posts some guilds have been reported by half the bracket 1 and some evidences that there were still offers of colluding have been shared with the devs.
The answer has been this:


So I agree that it doesn’t seem to be very high in their priorities.
Maybe also they don’t know how to deal with it?


#440

This is disappointing, but I’m not the least bit shocked.

Thankfully, I’m no longer involved in the Bracket 1 thunderdome, so it doesn’t taint the game for me personally any longer. I still feel bad for the honest players still involved though.


#441

In my opinion the solution to this problem is very simple, the sisters Guilds should not fight with each other,only this situation would be the most fair, and that’s all on this topic. I think that for Developers it would not be difficult to set :thinking:


#442

How do you prove a sister guild? Some sister guilds have not the same name. Another thing how do you get 30 people in a sister guild to cheat. I have seen 5 people in a top guild leave at one and if not for a starter or sister guild to pull players from they would have to play GW without 30. So you think sister guilds are to cheat when in reality its just not the case…


#443

Mabye we can get Robert Muller to investigate this also lol


#444

all sisters guilds(even if they have different names) is official on this forum and writes in the same one topic that they are be, so you do not have to prove anything. :wink:


#445

How disingenuous not to mention it wasn’t some random anonymous guild that got called out for this. Still trying to spin that history, eh?


#446

That was the first case and happened when there wasn’t a clear rule to forbid collusion.

After that, and after the devs clearly stated that collusion is no more allowed, there have been other evidences of bracket1 guilds proposing collusion.

All evidences have been sent to devs.