Daily Deals Data-Gathering Post Patch 5.7

[Magnusimus]

November 15

Dailies
Medal of Gaard
Deeds of Air
Medal of Yasmine

Arenas
Deeds of Stone
Deeds of Nature
Deeds of Ice

Will be interested to see if Daily Deals offer anyone troops from the Kingdom Pass, since presumably a lot of people are currently blocked at Power Level 3…

November 16

Dailies
Medal of Orpheus
Deeds of Stone
Verse 2

Arenas
Deeds of Fire
Deeds of Ice
Medal of Gaard

[Mithran]

Nov 15

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Nov 16

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[Magnusimus]

November 17

Dailies
Verse 1
Medal of Orpheus
Medal of Gaard

Arenas
Deeds of Magic
Priest’s Chalices
Medal of Yasmine

[Mithran]

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[Grundulum]

Have you seen enough daily deals to form conclusions? I keep watching this thread and waiting for the triumphant post describing the results.

[Qoob]

@Grundulum

Have you seen enough daily deals to form conclusions?

I honestly do not expect this to be possible because the offers depend so sensitively on the personalized tasks you have. People may be able to draw conclusions for the rates of various offers in the first and third daily offers, but there are simply too many variables to control with the second (personalized) offer and arena offers.

[Mithran]

@Grundulum

Have you seen enough daily deals to form conclusions?

I can say, somewhat conclusively, at least the following:

1. The nonsense offers, such as being offered more copies of non-medaled troops when you are tasked to raise elite levels or one event key where you are tasked to raise kingdom levels (that need deeds) are still in the offers pool.
2. Some percentage of the “kingdom power track” (middle slot) offers are randomly replaced, at even early levels of progression, with medals or deeds offers.
3. Offers that appear in slot 2, whether they force-replace a kingdom track offer or are there because you have few or available kingdom track offers; seemingly including arena offers that would have generated an offer that would have appeared in slot 2, are either overwhelmingly, or always, a medals or deeds offer
4. There is zero evidence that the medals or deeds offers are “personalized” or targeted in any way

The combination of this means instead of fixing their almost working targeted offers system, they instead opted to make it randomly not give targeted offers and instead give offers for things “most people want”. Rather than, you know, using the non-targeted offer slot for that.

3 is good. 4 is neutral… if thats the only form medals or deeds will ever come in, so be it, just don’t target them. But 1 & 2 are bad. 2 is new from 5.7+ and is a new bad and are so much worse to the people in the pet-starved phase of progression, where the breadcrumbs from pet offers at least gave the illusion of progress, and are now cut even further. But I think collectively people have sort of stopped caring that the system is placing random offers over targeted offers because the change still kind of gets them closer to where they want to be slightly faster and/or are maybe too scared to ask that it work properly that they’ll do something to (3) while not addressing 1 (again) and or making 1 or 2 worse. Or maybe people just don’t notice until they get that event key or troop offer.

From this thread we have also confirmed the existence of an the linked offer for “trait x troops” task, which is actually an offer that makes sense (it offers you a missing troop from the eligible troops pool, and this is not an eligible task if no eligible troops are missing).

I don’t think we’ll ever reach the point where we know specific percentages for everyone, especially not with just 3 people tracking it, but the thing I was curious at for this point is to what degree your overall progression influenced the chance of getting an off-track offer in the middle slot when you still have more than 1 on-track offer left in the pool. Other than that, there doesn’t seem to be any significant difference between my just my 4 accounts in terms of off-track offers with vastly varying differences in progression, but the people with (briefly) one or two kingdom track offers left seem to get off track offers more than any of mine, and as I understand it, were getting off track offers in the middle slot occasionally even if they weren’t “done” with every single kingdom offer even prepatch (whereas prior to 5.7 NONE of my accounts had ever received an off-track offer in the middle slot).

[Mithran]

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[Magnusimus]

November 18

Dailies
Verse 2
Writs
Expert Supply

Arenas
Deeds of Ice
Crafting Wealth
Genie’s Lamps

[Mithran]

Nov 19

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[Magnusimus]

November 19

Dailies
Crafting Wealth
Deeds of Magic
Medal of Gaard

Arenas
Medal of Gaard
Crafting Riches
Medal of Orpheus

November 20

Dailies
Delve Cache
Deeds of Stone
Deeds of Magic

Arenas
Medal of Gaard
Deeds of Magic
Deeds of Nature

[Mithran]

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[Magnusimus]

November 21

Dailies
Deeds of Stone
Imperial Deed
Legion Booster

Arenas
Deeds of Ice
Medal of Gaard
Legion Booster

[Mithran]

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I’m out for most of next week.

[Magnusimus]

I think since it’s the dawning of a new week this is as good a time as any to rest the case — we know all we came to confirm (and more, I’d dare say), and to glean more we’d need a lot more data (and the ability to parse based on uncollected information, like kingdom progression).

We can always pick it up again in the future if the need arises.

Thanks for participating!