[WIP] Daily Deals - Discussion and Critique

[EliteMasterEric]

Alright, time for a new thread!

This thread is dedicated to discussion, feedback, and data collection on the new Daily Deals feature implemented in version 4.9.0.

WORK IN PROGRESS

General Info

• Upon logging in, players can click the Offers button on the right side to see three daily deals. These deals are customized for them and targeted towards what they need, are replaced with daily reset, and cost Gems to purchase.
• There are three types of Daily Deals:
  • Player Level Offers provide rewards whose focus varies on the player’s general level and experience.
  • Kingdom Offers provide rewards specifically targeted towards helping players increase their Kingdom Level.
  • VIP Offers provide rarer rewards or deeper discounts than other offers, but require VIP Level 6 (Effective Value: $210) to purchase.
    • Many VIP offers are the same as an existing offer, but with a 25% Gem cost discount (so a 300 Gem offer becomes 225).

Available Offers

The names of the offers are all known and listed below, but a list of contents is currently under construction.

• Expert Supply: Use Souls to level up Troops, and use Gold to purchase Keys, unlock new Kingdoms or donate to a Guild.
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 5 Gem Keys (Total Value: 50 Gems), 4,000 Souls, 20,000 Gold
• Legion Booster: Use Keys to gain more Troops.
  • Price: 300 Gems
  • 20 Glory Keys, 20 Event Keys, 20 Gem Keys (Total Value: 500 Gems, 400 Glory)
• Delve Cache: Use Treasures to upgrade a Faction’s Hoard.
  • Price: 100 Gems
  • 4 Priest’s Chalice (Ultra-Rare Treasure Troop), 6,000 Gold, 120 Chaos Shards
• Underworld Cache: Use Treasures to upgrade a Faction’s Hoard.
  • Price: 400 Gems
  • 3 Genie’s Lamp (Legendary Treasure Troop), 25,000 Gold, 400 Chaos Shards
• Water Combo:
  • Price: 100 Gems
  • 10 Runic Water, 10 Major, 20 Minor Water
• Water Trove:
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 1 Celestial, 3 Stoic Arcane, 3 Swamp Arcane, 3 Blood Arcane, 3 Blade Arcane, 3 Spirit Arcane, 3 Shield Arcane
• Nature Combo:
  • Price: 100 Gems
  • 10 Runic Nature, 10 Major, 20 Minor Nature
• Nature Trove:
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 1 Celestial, 3 Stealth Arcane, 3 Swamp Arcane, 3 Beast Arcane, 3 Light Arcane, 3 Venom Arcane, 3 Forest Arcane
• Fire Combo:
  • Price: 100 Gems
  • 10 Runic Fire, 10 Major, 20 Minor Fire
• Fire Trove:
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 1 Celestial, 3 Rage Arcane, 3 Blood Arcane, 3 Beast Arcane, 3 Storm Arcane, 3 Dark Arcane, 3 Lava Arcane
• Wind Combo:
  • Price: 100 Gems
  • 10 Runic Wind, 10 Major, 20 Minor Wind
• Wind Trove:
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 1 Celestial, 3 Summer Arcane, 3 Blade Arcane, 3 Light Arcane, 3 Storm Arcane, 3 Plains Arcane, 3 Mountain Arcane
• Magic Combo:
  • Price: 100 Gems
  • 10 Runic Magic, 10 Major, 20 Minor Magic
• Magic Trove:
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 1 Celestial, 3 Death Arcane, 3 Spirit Arcane, 3 Venom Arcane, 3 Dark Arcane, 3 Plains Arcane, 3 Skull Arcane
• Earth Combo:
  • Price: 100 Gems
  • 10 Runic Earth, 10 Major, 20 Minor Earth
• Earth Trove:
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 1 Celestial, 3 Deep Arcane, 3 Shield Arcane, 3 Forest Arcane, 3 Lava Arcane, 3 Mountain Arcane, 3 Skull Arcane
• Writ Offer: Use Writs to help craft the Deeds of your choice.
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 150 Writs, 15,000 Gold
• Deed of Ice Offer: Used Deeds to level up your Kingdoms beyond 10.
  • Price: 300 Gems
  • 2 Deeds of Ice, 60,000 Gold
• Deed of Nature Offer: Used Deeds to level up your Kingdoms beyond 10.
  • Price: 300 Gems
  • 2 Deeds of Nature, 60,000 Gold
• Deed of Fire Offer: Used Deeds to level up your Kingdoms beyond 10.
  • Price: 300 Gems
  • 2 Deeds of Fire, 60,000 Gold
• Deed of Air Offer: Used Deeds to level up your Kingdoms beyond 10.
  • Price: 300 Gems
  • 2 Deeds of Air, 60,000 Gold
• Deed of Magic Offer: Used Deeds to level up your Kingdoms beyond 10.
  • Price: 300 Gems
  • 2 Deeds of Magic, 60,000 Gold
• Deed of Stone Offer: Used Deeds to level up your Kingdoms beyond 10.
  • Price: 300 Gems
  • 2 Deeds of Stone, 60,000 Gold
• Imperial Deed Offer: Used Imperial Deeds to level up your Kingdoms beyond 13.
  • Price: 500 Gems
  • 1 Imperial Deed, 80,000 Gold
• Crafting Riches: Crafting Resources can be used in the Soulforge.
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 10 Sapphires, 10 Emeralds, 10 Rubies, 10 Topazes, 10 Amethysts, 10 Garnets, 2,000 Shards
• Crafting Wealth: Crafting Resources can be used in the Soulforge.
  • Price: 300 Gems
  • 1,200 Souls, 30 Diamonds, 3,000 Shards
• Crafting Treasure: Crafting Resources can be used in the Soulforge.
  • Price: 500 Gems
  • 10 Sapphires, 10 Emeralds, 10 Rubies, 10 Topazes, 10 Amethysts, 10 Garnets, 50 Diamonds
• Common Medal Offer:
  • Price: 100 Gems
  • Medal of Gaard, 100 Gems
• Rare Medal Offer:
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • Medal of Yasmine, 1,500 Souls
• Ultra-Rare Medal Offer:
  • Price: 300 Gems
  • 2,000 Souls, Medal of Orpheus
• Pet Gift:
  • Price: 50 Gems
  • 10 White Pet Food, 1
• Pet Bounty:
  • Price: 150 Gems
  • 10 Pet Food, 3
• Kingdom Helper:
  • Price: 25 Gems
  • 1 Event Key (15 Gem Value), 10,000 Gold
• Class Favor: Help towards Power Level <#>.
  • Price: 125 Gems
  • 100 Class XP for the associated Class, 700 Souls
• Common Troops: Help towards Power Level <#>.
  • Price: 30 Gems
  • 700 Souls, 10
• Rare Troops: Help towards Power Level <#>.
  • Price: 50 Gems
  • 700 Souls, 10
• Ultra-Rare Troops: Help towards Power Level <#>.
  • Price: 100 Gems
  • 1,000 Souls, 5
• Epic Troops: Help towards Power Level <#>.
  • Price: 120 Gems
  • 3 , 1,000 Souls
• Ingot Offer:
  • Price: 20 Gems
  • 10 Ultra-Rare Ingots
• Ingot Cache:
  • Price: 50 Gems
  • 5 Epic Ingots
• Ingot Supply:
  • Price: 150 Gems
  • 5 Legendary Ingots
• Ingot Bounty:
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 2 Mythic Ingots
• Epic Medal Offer:
  • Price: 400 Gems
  • Medal of Aranaea, 2,500 Souls
• Legendary Medal Offer:
  • Price: 500 Gems
  • 3,000 Souls, Medal of Anu
• Vault Offer: Use the Vault Key to unlock a special Vault Battle with big rewards.
  • Price: 120 Gems
  • 10,000 Gold, 1 Vault Key

The following offers are VIP-only. They are exclusive to the VIP-6 section, and are indicated by having no discount when they appear.

• Orb Bounty:
  • Price: 700 Gems
  • 1,000 Souls, 1 Minor Orb of Ascension
• Orb Supply:
  • Price: 350 Gems
  • 1,000 Souls, 1 Minor Orb of Wisdom
• Orb Cache: This orb transforms into another orb on collection.
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 1 Minor Orb of Chaos
• Clan Offer:
  • Price: 200 Gems
  • 3 Guildmate Gifts, 1 Minor Orb of Clans

Currently missing descriptions:

• Basic Supply: Use Souls to level up Troops, and use Gold to purchase Keys, unlock new Kingdoms or donate to a Guild.

• Advanced Supply: Use Souls to level up Troops, and use Gold to purchase Keys, unlock new Kingdoms or donate to a Guild.

• Troop Booster: Use Keys to gain more Troops.

• Army Booster: Use Keys to gain more Troops.

• VIP Offer: Use VIP Keys to open VIP Chests and earn Epic-or-better loot.

• Orb of Power:

Please reply with information on the offers you have received, and any feedback you have on the system as a whole!

[EliteMasterEric]

Here are my daily deals for today. The class XP one is particularly intriguing.

(300 value, 25% discount means a total price of 225)

[Slypenslyde]

1 out of 3 ain’t bad.

[covertmuffin123]

Here’s my constructive feedback for the dev team, after thinking it over for a couple hours:

I thought the point of the update was to provide a tempting daily gem sink that would slowly drain gem reserves. This would increase the versatility (value) of gems, and players would eventually need to spend money if they wanted to keep up with the daily deals and buy tier 4 in all events. I totally support this; it’s a decent way to increase monetization without making any specific part of the game P2W. You choose where to spend your gems, or you make occasional purchases so that you can “do everything.”

The current array of daily deals doesn’t achieve this. Most offer resources that are worthless to lategame players, and many seem to offer very poor gem value. I might buy a Yasmine medal or some deeds, but I need to wait to be randomly offered them. If they’re locked behind VIP 6, I can’t purchase them - which is nuts, because the way to convince me to earn VIP 6 is to drain my gems so that I need to spend money on the game. (Or start selling retroactive Death Knight armor, with scaling gold/souls based on your current level.)

One solution might be to allow players to veto a small number of deal categories. Not enough to guarantee daily deed purchases, but 2-3 would be reasonable. I will never want to buy jewels through a daily deal (I have tens of thousands), so please offer me something else that I might spend gems on. That way I get resources I care about, and you get my gems.

I hope that the team can work out a way to make the game more profitable. A lot of people want to spend small amounts of real money on the game, but it’s hard to find anything worth buying.

Maybe the daily deals are more attractive for early-midgame players, but they seem to miss the mark for endgame players.

[EliteMasterEric]

Found Offers

@Lyrian

“Delve Cache” - 4 Priest Chalice + 6000 Gold + 120 Chaos Shards = 100 Gems
“Class Favor” - 100 Specific Class Champion XP + 700 Souls = 125 Gems

• VIP Offer → “Rare Medal Offer” - 1 Medal of Yasmine + 1500 Souls = 200 → 150 Gems w/ discount

@covertmuffin123

“Crafting Riches” - 2000 shards + 10 of each jewel except diamonds = 200 gems
“Class Favor” - same, for Warden class
VIP: “Legion Booster” - 20 event keys, 20 glory keys, 20 gem keys = 300 gems

[awryan]

Tested ads on 7 accounts.
My main account - chaos shards (32 I think?)
6 alts - all 100 gold.

But at least 5 different ads.

[Redi1]

Ones I have that you dont,

• [Element] Combo - [100] - 10 Runic [Element] Traitstones - 10 Major [Element] Traitstones - 20 Minor [Element] Traitstones
• [Element] Trove - [200] - 1 Celestial Traitstone - 3 of Each Arcane Traitstone Containing [Element]
• Writ Offer - [200] - 15,000 Gold - 150 Writs
• Pet Gift - [50] - 10 White Food - 1x [Pet]
• Pet Bounty - [150] - 10 [Pet Color] Pet Food - 3x [Pet]
• Common Troops - [30] - 700 Souls - 10x [Troop]
• Rare Troops - [50] - 700 Souls - 10x [Troop]
• Ultra-Rare Troops - [100] - 1,000 Souls - 5x [Troop]
• Ingot Offer - [20] - 10 Ultra-Rare Ingots
• Ingot Supply - [150] - 5 Legendary Ingots
• Ingot Bounty - [200] - 2 Mythic Ingots
• Clan Offer - [200] - 3 Guildmate Gifts - Orb of Clans
• Orb Supply - [350] - 1,000 Souls - Orb of Wisdom
• Orb Bounty - [700] - 1,000 Souls - Orb of Ascension
• Ultra-Rare Medal Offer - [300] - 2,000 Souls - Medal of Orpheus
• Epic Medal Offer - [400] - 2,500 Souls - Medal of Aranaea

Providing a Magic Trove example below. If you need them I can probably go find the rest but it will take a while.

Summary

Magic Trove for example

[TheIdleOne]

From a guildmate

[Redi1]

Nice find. I hadnt seen a new one in 4+ hours Glad to break the dry streak.

We can probably infer a 400 cost and 2,500 Souls for the Epic Medal Offer as well.

EDIT - Just got confirmation.

[awryan]

All useless to me.

[TheIdleOne]

Is anyone really going to spend 200 gems for 5 gem keys, 4,000 souls, and 20,000 gold?..

[AMT]

50 gems:

150 gems:

#GoWmath

[SirBaldassar]

Day 1

[Redi1]

Pinged Kafka in the 4.9 thread but I assume this is a bug. No VIP Discount for the Orb Bounty. If anyone else sees it let me know please.

[Julli-of-North]

No discount on Wisdom Orbs either

[Redi1]

Interesting. We will need to track these VIP only offers as well I guess.

Edit - It appears all 4 orb deals I have info on are VIP only.

I can confirm Orb Cache, Clan Offer, Orb Supply, and Orb Bounty are VIP only and not discounted at the moment.

[JonathanStriker]

@AMT

#GoWmath

Oh, that is some fantastic math right there. Lmao

[CptTripz]

Do anyone outside of the first month or so of play actually need more ingots?

[igniteice]

My deals yesterday:

(trash)

(trash)

(I purchased this because of the sheer number of deeds needed to fully upgrade kingdoms)

My deals today:

(trash)

(intriguing actually, given that I need 1 more to get this pet to mythic and pets are becoming more and more rare as people play less PvP – and as more pets come out, pets become diluted – I’ll probably grab this one, even though I only need ONE of him since I have 15 and need 16 to upgrade to level 20, and I already have 151 blue pet food… but it also allowed me to upgrade Darkstone to power level 17)

(trash, it’s the most common medal I get at Difficulty 12 Explore)

[Redi1]

Thanks to Angi at Hoguns for sharing that.