With all this lag you might as well extend gnome event an extra day!

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To be fair, that would be damn fair.

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Yeah totally agree. And Monday is Valentine you know. :smile:

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Why just one day? The imp idea is annoying on valentines day. Deafs (Devs) like to ruin the game every important occasion. Christmas season was full of bugs and lies.

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We do be lucky if the devs decide to give us 1 extra day, I would say. However I would not complain if we got more. Of course fearing that we won’t get any extra days at all.

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It actually doesn’t influence the gnome spawn rate (back then at least).

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Yeah, the battlecrashers aren’t supposed to affect the gnomes.

The lag on entering/finishing battles though: yeah, oof, has been really bad all weekend.

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How does one explain “the lack of gnomes”? RNG and confirmation bias. There are plenty of people reporting Gnome appearances at rates that are “normal” in light of previous Vault events; some people just may not be particularly lucky when it comes to Gnomes appearing for them.

Saying “I’m not seeing the gnomes” is a testimonial and maybe a single data point if you can back it up with some harder evidence such as how many Gnomes you’ve encountered and how many appropriate battles you’ve fought. Several people saying “I’m not seeing the gnomes” is still a bunch of testimonials and not hard evidence.

The appearance rate might have changed. But we need enough data to support that allegation; otherwise, it may as well be sour grapes from people who have an expectation of a greater appearance rate.

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Vault event could be everyday now, and it wouldn’t make a bit of difference in the chances and percentages. During normal days too, I could play just a few battles to find a gnome to complete that campaign task where I have to kill a gnome.

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You and others, I suppose, are ready to present a whole load of numbers to support your claim right now this very moment? In fact, you actually had them included in your post already but the forum glitched and made those numbers disappear, right?

This “battlecrashers take away my gnomes” mantra has been present every time both events clash and - needless to say - nobody has ever put forward a single piece of data when asked to do so.
I’ve tracked enough in the past to see for myself and trust the devs on this particular matter and not continue tracking for the time being. Last few days, however, looked and felt pretty much like every other vault weekend, nothing out of the ordinary that would make me regret - dang it, I should’ve written down those numbers because I’m being bamboozled.

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I’m no Dev supporter.

I’ve been tracking data since Cursed Gnomes were released to get a feel of the ‘boosted’ rates.

Xmas Vault Event

BATTLES GN VK VERSE CG RUNES EVK
98 12 1 5 3 39 0
117 5 0 1 2 22 0
109 12 1 3 2 21 0
111 11 0 4 1 12 0
114 13 0 10 0 0 0
112 10 0 4 0 0 0
112 12 0 7 0 0 0
113 8 0 2 1 11 0
117 11 1 6 1 0 0
115 16 1 6 6 69 0
109 9 0 8 0 0 0
112 10 0 7 0 0 0
111 13 1 8 3 38 0
111 15 2 8 4 24 0
111 14 1 9 1 10 0
113 15 1 6 0 0 0
111 16 1 7 2 10 0
112 8 1 2 3 24 0
111 14 0 9 0 0 1
112 9 0 6 2 21 0
113 14 0 6 2 26 0
108 10 0 4 5 64 0
110 9 0 4 2 24 0
113 7 0 2 1 12 0
112 10 0 7 1 11 0
113 15 0 7 3 32 0
111 15 0 9 4 42 0
112 11 0 5 1 10 0
114 10 1 6 0 0 0
110 12 0 7 1 11 0
212 24 1 10 2 24 0
BATTLES GNOMES VK VERSES CRSD GN RUNES EPIC VK
3560 370 13 185 53 557 1
67.168 9.621 0.500 19.243 67.168 6.391 2.00

JANUARY VAULT EVENT

RUN MYTH BATTLES GN VK VERSE CG RUNES EVK
1 97 109 12 0 6 0 0 0
2 99 111 6 0 4 0 0 0
3 101 113 11 0 6 1 11 0
4 100 112 11 0 4 0 0 0
5 99 111 7 0 4 0 0 0
6 98 110 7 0 3 0 0 0
7 101 113 12 0 6 0 0 0
8 98 110 9 0 3 1 12 0
9 101 113 11 0 5 0 0 0
10 101 113 17 1 7 1 13 0
11 98 110 13 0 4 0 0 0
12 101 113 8 0 3 0 0 0
13 109 122 18 1 8 0 0 0
14 100 112 15 0 9 0 0 0
15 100 112 13 1 8 0 0 0
16 99 111 17 0 11 0 0 0
17 106 119 14 0 8 0 0 0
18 104 117 13 0 6 2 25 AB*
19 101 113 12 1 5 0 0 0
20 100 112 10 0 5 0 0 0
21 100 112 8 0 5 0 0 0
22 100 112 10 0 6 0 0 0
23 97 109 13 0 7 0 0 0
24 101 113 16 1 7 0 0 0
25 100 112 7 0 3 1 0 0
26 90 101 16 1 9 0 0 0
27 102 114 18 1 8 1 13 1
28 100 112 11 0 7 0 0 0
29 97 109 16 0 6 0 0 0
30 101 113 12 0 6 0 0 0
31 98 110 5 1 2 0 0 0
32 102 114 12 1 8 1 11 0
33 257 287 28 0 7 2 21 0
BATTLES GNOMES VK VERSES CRSD GN RUNES EPIC VK
3875 408 9 196 10 106 1
BATTLE/GN BATTLE/VK VERSE app vs GNME CRSED GN/BATTLE RNE/BATTLE
* = 1 Adventure Board CG 9.498 45.333 2.082 387.522 36.559

THIS VAULT EVENT

RUN MYTH BATTLES GN VK VERSE CG RUNES EVK BC
1 96 108 15 2 7 1 10 0 13
2 103 115 9 1 6 19
3 101 113 8 3 1 11 12
4 100 112 12 1 3 23
5 101 113 12 6 9
6 97 109 16 13 11
7 98 110 7 1 2 16
8 101 113 7 4 17
9 98 110 18 1 9 17
10 103 115 14 2 6 18
11 99 111 16 7 15
12 100 112 17 12 15
13 123 138 21 12 14
14 101 113 18 12 16
15 112 125 22 9 1 15 17
16 100 112 13 1 6 14
17 100 112 14 3 15
18 101 113 17 6 1 10 17
19 108 121 18 5 1 15 19
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BATTLES GNOMES VK VERSES CRSD GN RUNES EPIC VK CRASHER
2177 274 9 131 5 61 0 297
BATTLE/GN VK/BATTLE VERSE/GNME CRSED GN/BATTLE RUNES
7.944 241.864 2.092 435.356 35.685 7.329

If Battlecrashers prevented gnomes, I’d have less right?

I have had my best gnome appearance this weekend, albeit not played as much.

All games are E1.

The boost to cursed gnomes at Xmas was such that I got 1:67 battles. This weekend 1:435.

I agree they are a pain.

What is more of a pain is the lag. Devs should not be waiting until patch without something, it’s a fab excuse they have, but it should be properly and permanently addressed. Once patched Devs should raise explore gold modifiers by about 10% to compensate properly.

Another fix would be to release a pet that stacks with the likes of Lucky, and the other pets that give gold, xp and soul modifiers, giving a similar bonus to compensate for the ridiculous checking of the soulforge as has been pointed out. That would compensate for all the lost resources over time.

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2842 Trophies & 5 gaps used. Not a single cursed gnome :sob:

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6 gaps, 8 cursed gnomes.
RNG gonna RNG.

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Normally throughout previous events multiple cg could be found (if lucky) during a gap while vault event was active. Also applies for multiple gap I played outside of vault event.

And during this “event of lag and souls”:
Since I don’t know the correct number, it was around 800-1000 explore1 matches.
No cg found outside of gap runs.
And three gap runs also without cursed gnome appaerances.

rng nais nais? I stand by my point and suspect forced reduction of the droprate for all. and some lucky gooses actually had rng luck…

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Sometimes you get a lucky streak of gnomes, sometimes you get a draught for a while.
If you’d log all your numbers and compare over a longer time, you’d see the rates settle, as has been shown by the various people who do log their battles.
Until then, it’s just confirmation bias & “woe is me”.

Incidentally, most (if not all) of the people who complain about spawn rates of chaos gnomes or battlecrasher vs gnomes (or any other similar things in games in general) never post actual data, just anecdotal biased convenient gut feeling numbers. Because it fits their narrative.

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Yep, last gnome event I got 11 Cursed Gnome with half the playtime

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The crasher ruin the event in the sense that it has an extra hp at times you need more time to kill it. So I hate it. No need for data as everyone can experience it. Hence, less verse for me. So Fffff the crasher on gnome event.

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Guess what?
Not everybody has 2+ hawks, so they can’t turbo-oneshot explore 1s.

Whining about not being able to non-stop turbo-oneshot e1s because of a crasher doesn’t win any sympathy. There are lots of others out there that have to settle for normal slower runs. It’s called making the best out of the situation.

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Thread can be locked. Everything went wrong with it.

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I am not looking for your sympathy though. Hoping for Deafs (Devs) to hear me. But u seems like here to pick a fight.

We have done a lot of hardwork to get the troops we need for each type of scenarios. Why will I should be compared to poor newbie like you like I was before?

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Oh nice. Responding with (more) insults now.