How are we all feeling about Gems of War now? Let’s review!

[Pantenkind]

@Stan

@Pantenkind

“I don’t have time, so you shouldn’t have the option because that’s not fair”

And now you’re misrepresenting my point. I think it is unhealthy for the game if they keep piling on game modes that require hours of time every week which gate crucial resources that are universally desirable. If this were a ‘choose your own adventure’ situation where we could achieve the same things by finding the path that is most enjoyable to each of us, that would be great, but that’s not how the devs have implemented things.

You just made my point “where we could achieve the same things by finding the path that is most enjoyable to each of us”

Someone who plays more and does more should have more. You want to limit my reward potential because it makes you feel obligated to do more than you want.

If I play three hours a day and you play one…should I not be better rewarded than you overall? And to cut off the point I know you will try to make…any mode we do the same will reward the same, so there is no advantage other than the time you are willing to spend.

I will say this, the rewards for invasions suck…ssssuuuuuccccckkkkkk…which does go to your point a little.

[Pantenkind]

@Razzagor

@Pantenkind

I have said many times that I would be fine if they cut the rewards into thirds so the same were given over a three week period.

Edit…that’s providing they cut sentinel upgrade costs in proportion.

Sorry, i don’t follow every post you make, but i asked it honestly to understand better your perspective instead of jumping into some conclusions. The problem i see trying to balancing out your idea is: If people can earn rewards then they’ll feel compeled/obligated to play the mode.

If there is no reward, unless at the right week, then the portion of players that don’t like GW are free to not enter it as there is nothing to lose, and the economic control is also attained.

Exactly…so they can’t control their compulsions, so I should lose a game mode I enjoy.

Do you see now?

And I actually wasn’t being sarcastic with the last post, just letting you know I am actually realistic about my expectations.

[Cyrup]

I am going to keep this thread locked as it has run its course.

You are welcome to share your opinions, complaints, and feedback on Gems of War and the changes that we have made, that is the purpose of this forum. Additionally you are welcome to express anger, happiness, sadness, frustration - but this is not acceptable when it is directed at another person on the forums (in a way that is harmful or offensive)*, and when it turns into the form of insults, harassment, flaming, or even call outs. Additionally, if you see someone acting like this, or act like this yourself, you can stop, take a step back and change your ways. If you chose to continue to act wrongly or instigate further arguments this is your choice, but it’s not going to help anyway and defeats the purpose of having a civil discussion over a topic.

If any of this negative and inappropriate behaviour continues on another forum post, PM, topic or anywhere else on the forums the players instigating will be suspended.

*Obviously being happy with other people is fine…

[Cyrup]

This thread has been cleaned of inappropriate posts and posts that derail from the topic and reopened. Again, if this continues, the thread will be locked and the appropriate actions taken accordingly (to lock the thread, suspend users or otherwise).

[Santandrix]

Thank you so much!!! Now if we can all be civil, then let’s carry on and help to make this game better.

Can we hit 150 votes???

[Gouki]

It is not like this discussion was going anywhere even before it got dark…

[Fornico]

I’m sure this has been said… but I don’t like the pay to win aspect of the weekly event, coupled with the chance to win an awful orb. Wisdom orb is good… the others are… nothing that I ever need.

It’s the whole timesink isn’t worth the rewards for me.

[Lyrian]

Waiting for the Bounty mode reveal post before commenting any further on the matter.

Didn’t Salty say the post would be up by the normal news reveal time? We’re a couple hours past that now. The actual event starts in under 6 hours from this post.

[turintuor]

@Stan

There will be a post explaining bounties later this week (close to release), but no preview video.

From the last streaming.

Close to release could mean 5 minutes before the event starts .

[Fleg]

I would like to time jump 24 months into the future and see all the people raging who have all the orbs necessary to craft Zuul…except orbs of growth. This is a definite thing that’s coming and my main gripe with the game currently. In 24 months many people will have enough ascension and wisdom orbs to craft 8 power orbs, but only enough growth orbs to craft maybe 2.

How could anyone with half a brain release a new currency into the game with each component having equal drop chance but one of the components you need 500% more of them than the others?

[fishinia]

my orb count says otherwise! I have 2 orbs of clans also, but could not get them all in the same screenshot.

[vanyel]

@Fleg

In 24 months many people will have enough ascension and wisdom orbs to craft 8 power orbs, but only enough growth orbs to craft maybe 2.

I doubt this will be the case. I already have 2 major growth orbs and none of the other majors. You assume they all have equal chance to appear but that’s never been stated to my knowledge. Also, of all the orbs, growth will likely be the least used whereas the others will, so you’ll likely naturally have more left over than the others.

Perhaps the devs realized this as well & designed it this way on purpose so we had time to use some of the other orbs while waiting to get enough growths?

[Lyrian]

@Fleg

How could anyone with half a brain release a new currency into the game with each component having equal drop chance but one of the components you need 500% more of them than the others?

Because that’s what someone with half a brain would do if they wanted to create an intentional bottleneck for players to deal with as the limiting factor in the crafting recipe.

Given equal distribution, a player would need to get an equal number of other types of orbs as wasteful inefficiencies while accumulating enough orbs of growth to pass through the bottleneck.

One can see similar intentional wasteful inefficiencies in place in the recipes for converting minor orbs to major ones (such as needing 4 minor orbs of wisdom to craft 1 major orb of wisdom, when 3 minor orbs acts as functionally similar to the 1 major of wisdom, “wasting” 1 minor orb in the conversion).

[JonathanStriker]

Okay, after seeing the Bounty mode, that’s it, I’m done.

No, I’m not qutting, but I am done spending gems on all this ridiculous stuff. I “played along” for the first couple of weeks, because the modes were new and it was something different. I knew the tiers weren’t worth it, but I bought them anyway, because, hey, I can live a little. The modes were new and I was just about having fun.

But, now, after 3 separate (but way too similar) Gem sinks, I’m done. I’m not throwing my gems down the black hole you call a “Shop” anymore. But, don’t worry though, devs, you’ll still get all my gems, anyway. Because, once a month I throw them down a black hole at the chance of getting a new Mythic. And, Chuck knows, that those rarely come easy to me.

But, as far as the Shop in the new game modes go, I’m done. I can’t just sit here and pretend I’m not getting screwed out of my gems every week. I let you have them this time, because it was all new and I just threw caution to the wind and decided to have a little fun. But, I won’t do this every week. I refuse.

That all being said, if you rework the game modes (make the tiers cheaper, or the rewards better), I may reconsider. But, for now, I’m out.

Also, I know that me saying this, that hundreds of us saying this doesn’t mean a lick of difference. You’ll still make money, and either we’ll just straight up quit or spend as little as possible in this game. Either way, in the end, ultimately, you’ll win and we, the players, still lose

Like I said before… I haven’t truly enjoyed this game in quite some time. I guess I’ll just have to settle for finding it mildly entertaining now. Which, I suppose, is okay. I have plenty of other games to spend more of my time (and money) on.

Also, my apologies to other players reading this. I know it’s a bit rant-y. I’m just frustrated with the game, as of late.

[AngryMidget]

No need to apologise to the players, we didn’t change the game for the worse causing you to say what you’ve said.

I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said.

However I must admit I’m having more fun now than I was before with all the new, albeit similar game modes. But like you I refuse to spend gems on any of them.

Keeping gems and getting a few rubbish rewards is better that spending gems and getting a few more rubbish rewards.

Maybe one day the Devs will learn what gem value truly is. It’s strange they charge an arm and a leg for them with real money, but then in return for them they give you lacklustered rewards.

[Gouki]

@JonathanStriker

Also, my apologies to other players reading this. I know it’s a bit rant-y. I’m just frustrated with the game, as of late.

If you were here ten hours ago you’d know this isn’t the thread to do apologies, so no worries.

[The_Unforgiven]

Maybe if they somehow managed to pull off cross platform play there will be enough end game players left to run a number of competitive guilds.

[JonathanStriker]

@Gouki

If you were here ten hours ago you’d know this isn’t the thread to do apologies, so no worries.

I know. I read. Lol.

I apologized because I don’t want to be one of those guys just yelling at people to change things that they won’t. Basically, I don’t like being the “angry rant” type. But, it happens. More so with this game than anything else I’ve played in the last year.

And, funny enough, I didn’t start complaining until the new UI. That’s actually when I made this account. It was the first time I felt unhappy enough to express those feelings. And sadly, it hasn’t gotten any better. I’m still as unhappy now as I was then, probably even more so, because as they add new things, this game seems to be getting worse, not better, overall. In my opinion.

Yes, there are better “things” in it, like us getting the kingdom names on the troops and getting a replay button in Explore. But, overall, I do not think this is better.

The last major thing I liked when introduced was the weekly events and Glory Reward troops. But, even those they’ve messed with (making the events take more stones, and reducing the bonuses to only 10% each).

And, the thing that put me on the “hate bandwagon” was the new UI and all the gem nerfs. They reversed the Guild Task one a bit after backlash, but that’s it. We still have this crappy UI, less gems in Guild Tasks, none in Legendary Tasks, less from GW (as it’s only once every 3 weeks), and now 3 new game modes that eat gems like crazy.

So, tell me, how has this game really improved, as a whole, since those nerfs and New UI introduction? I don’t believe it has, outside of a few minor improvements.

[Santandrix]

So how are bounties looking?

Should I spend some gems in the shop or is it not worth the hassle?