Deeds - Discussion and Critique

I think today’s deeds weren’t added to the counter. I’m up to 42 green deeds now counting the mail freebies.

:smile_cat: I was still working on the table. It should be up-to-date now.

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Thanks for picking up the torch. You rock :slight_smile:

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Red Legendary Adventure Board Task

Nov. 27, 2019 | Day 86 since first Deeds in AB:


Non-Flash Offer Table

Deed Type Amount Days Needed To Complete
Imperial 15/102 585
Blue 18/146 690
Green 38/146 327
Red 37/176 410
Yellow 28/176 535
Purple 8/176 1,870
Brown 20/176 748

With Flash Offer Table

Deed Type Amount Days Needed To Complete Price [USD]
Purple 16/176 935 $17

NOTE: These tables do not include the original freebie deeds given out by mail when deeds were introduced.

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Blue Legendary Adventure Board Task

Dec. 3, 2019 | Day 92 since first Deeds in AB:


Non-Flash Offer Table

Deed Type Amount Days Needed To Complete
Imperial 16/102 587
Blue 24/146 560
Green 38/146 327
Red 37/176 410
Yellow 28/176 535
Purple 8/176 1,870
Brown 20/176 748

With Flash Offer Table

Deed Type Amount Days Needed To Complete Price [USD]
Purple 16/176 935 $17

NOTE: These tables do not include the original freebie deeds given out by mail when deeds were introduced.

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I can see how this suggests that RNG is biased against magic, but in truth you need significantly more sample data than is currently available. RNG is not cumulative. If you roll a dice and hit a 6, the chances of the next roll being not a six are not increased. Microprocessor RNG is no different. The biggest obvious flaw of gems RNG being suspect is when the AI ignores a quad (that no human would) and the resultant sky fall of gems shows precisely why. That’s just wrong. We can’t see what’s above the board and that concept should be no different for the AI.

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I am starting to believe that purple deeds are excluded from legendary (and above) tasks so we can only roll the dice when the devs decide to offer deeds at epic task rarity (4 deeds).
In this case both view points are correct. Devs can claim that all colours have equal drop chance and we can see unfavorable RNG at purple deeds.

Also I do agree though that we need more data points for any insightful conclusion.

Devs can keep their Purple Deeds. What a puny plan. I have seen the vids of players completing Crypt Keeper faction delve. Complete it with Magic buffs they did? No, survive the true dmg and get lucky with casts the key was…

Give me the deeds of life, and my troops will survive forever, racking up millions of victories. muahaha.

Unfortunately if your opponents are getting the same deeds, your million victories will take forever to get :sweat_smile:

In general the game seems to be reluctant to provide means to boost magic (which would speed up games) while being happy to provide additional armor/life boosts (which slows games down), that’s why everyone is so suspicious about purple deed scarcity…

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It’s largely irrelevant. If devs maintain a lower drop rate for magic etc so be it. Magic is overrated. Smash teams with fireblade incendiary teams and you will realise how pathetic magic so often is.

+1 to magic is pointless.

I have 3 Nysha medals, but I’m using 2 Gaards and an Anu for my Tesla team :innocent:

p.s. the bronze/silver/gold elite level for Tesla is incredibly worthless

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Cmon, Salty! RNG are not exactly random. They depend on a function.

And the implementation they use is the Mersenne Twister. (Edit to add: Salty has coding experience. She knows just as well as you do that RNGs can be skewed. She is claiming that the implementation shows no bias.)

Most of the medal “upgrades” I’ve looked at on my favoured troops are mediocre. The only troops who will be getting medals are those in pure faction that I haven’t earned max renown for yet. At least for now. But I don’t like explore so I am guaranteed to lose stats to the dedicated medal hunters.

Purple Epic Adventure Board Task

Dec. 8, 2019 | Day 97 since first Deeds in AB:


Non-Flash Offer Table

Deed Type Amount Days Needed To Complete
Imperial 16/102 587
Blue 24/146 560
Green 38/146 327
Red 37/176 410
Yellow 28/176 535
Purple 12/176 1,423
Brown 20/176 748

With Flash Offer Table

Deed Type Amount Days Needed To Complete Price [USD]
Purple 20/176 854 $17

NOTE: These tables do not include the original freebie deeds given out by mail when deeds were introduced.

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Look forward to the update of your formulas to include upcoming epic tasks. I’m sure you are waiting for 4.7 to drop, but just give everyone a sneak peak with the new tasks it will now make almost all color deeds complete within a year or so. The only thing missing will be imperials which may stay force a longer completion for all kingdoms. (For guilds that still complete all tasks that is)

I think the table should purposely ignore deeds from epic tasks. A solo player could do all the adventure boards and buy all the flash sales. But a solo player probably can’t make the 26 million gold per week needed to reach all six deeds from epic tasks.

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A 3rd table would be good assuming 1 of each deed color per week from epic tasks.

I plan to make a 3rd table that takes the 6 deeds from epic tasks into account once 4.7 comes out.

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Purple Epic Adventure Board Task

Dec. 11, 2019 | Day 100 since first Deeds in AB:


Non-Flash Offer Table

Deed Type Amount Days Needed To Complete
Imperial 16/102 587
Blue 24/146 560
Green 38/146 327
Red 37/176 410
Yellow 28/176 535
Purple 16/176 1,100
Brown 20/176 748

With Flash Offer Table

Deed Type Amount Days Needed To Complete Price [USD]
Purple 24/176 734 $17

NOTE: These tables do not include the original freebie deeds given out by mail when deeds were introduced.

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