To all American people: who are you gonna vote for?

Did you know that ohio and florida got legal medical pot almost a month or 2 before the major election happened?

Vets make enough money. when’s the last time you took your dog or cat there for an appointment?

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Veterinarians make a lot of money just look at how much it cost to spay or neuter a dog.

War veterans need to make about as much as a politician a year not less.

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Remember how i said our votes do not matter, this is what i mean. Hillary won more votes from america, however trump still won. Maybe we should unrig our system?

She only had 200,000 more votes. Not that big of a difference considering blue states have a bigger combined population than most red states. Democrats didn’t really get out and vote this time, which would’ve sealed the deal. But I agree the electoral college is cheeks.

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if it were not for the electoral colleges she would have won based on votes instead of a system that forces candidates to unfairly target states. This red vs blue stuff needs to end, the era of 2 party system needs to end.

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This is the most important thing and any real change in any other area isn’t likely to happen until there are more parties to choose from.

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@killerman3333 the electoral college is built into our Constitution for a reason.
Blame the founding fathers ;p

Obama would have lost to Romney without the electoral college, so please stop using that, the rules have been in place for years…

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I agree that getting upset about it after the fact is pretty lame but it still needs to be fixed regardless of if your candidate did or did not win this time. It shouldn’t be made retroactive or anything silly like that but the problem is the electoral system always favors whomever just won so of course that party isn’t going to want to change it.

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That’s pretty silly; we’ve changed and amended countless things since our founding fathers created the constitution. Thats exactly what they wanted; they knew what worked in their time might not always work; that’s why it’s called a living document. :slight_smile:

I somehow knew someone would do something about vets who take care of animals… i knew, but i thought, “come on, do i really have to spell out veterans?” annnnd i did:D i know y’all were just lightening up the thread though. it needed it. Trumpster Fire ™

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If you follow how the voters voted… City or largely populated area’s are typically democrat, so removing the electoral college would not work as you might think.

If we really wanted to make a “voting” change based on Popular Vote, then we must have Voter ID Cards, we must verify we are all legal to vote.

I also feel that if you pay ZERO Income taxes, you should be unable to vote. This would have made people like Trump unable to vote for themselves, or anyone who pays no taxes. Lets face it, this is very controversial, however if your not paying into the system… why should you get to decide how its run?

I know people are going to go ape over the comment above, however really think about it…

I don’t want to interject real life history into peoples personal feeling that a simple democracy is the best solution for government. But, a pure Democracy is one of the surest paths to Tyranny. Its the reason America was modeled after a Representative Republic.

Some of the oldest writings on the subject from Plato

Relevant ideas from 200 years ago & structure of America
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/democracy-versus-liberty

The electoral college system is NOT perfect but does serve a function.

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I’m not going to go ape, but it should be legal for any citizen of the USA to vote. We can never take that away.

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This is a lot more tamer than my facebook and certain cities in america.

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In addition to what @HKdirewolf responded with, it should also be noted that voter fraud (at least the kind “Voter IDs” are supposed to combat) is practically non-existant and the push for these Voter-ID laws are simply a form of voter suppression and a complete waste of tax money.