Stupid Teams (that still win)

[jdk]

@jdk

stupid diabolist team

As promised. Maybe a good distraction from certain other forum news…

Inspired by all the dual-empowered Zuul defenses

this team is mostly also about the power of empowered converters, not necessarily meaning Diabolist is a great class. (at press time, it’s a surprising 52-41 as my pvp defense this week)

I do think Fiend Fire is a really good class weapon, probably one of the better ones IMHO. The upgrades are good (and no broken ones), it drains mana (pairs well with disease talent), gives you mana, steals magic, and reduces skill points (pairs well with life steal talents, it it hits life skill). Also the class has a +2 magic for scythes talent, and this team gets a +9 on cast for 3 demons. Hits like a purple orb of winter (but a little less because no glacial/fey magic team boosts)

Elemaugrim does the same tricks in this team as when paired with Infernus, still a great fiery niche for this old mythic from a different era of the game, and of course easy to refill weapon. Often 2nd weapon cast is already the team wipe

I am running one Nysha medal and one Anu medal which helps. Probably be more turn 3 wins without the medals instead of turn 2

If I ever manage to level to 100, I might be brave enough to put hero in front with fire blade, Ele 3rd trait hits a lot on turn 1 using both empowered converters, substantial -attack taking the bite out of empowered skull makers on the other side. and if you have both life steal talents, you get +3 life every time attack gets reduced. So that’s my theory for a potential sliver of front line survivability. Also there’s a talent that gains magic and attack when you take damage, again if you can survive

The other option is keep fire blade in 2nd slot, as an emergency rescue feature to salvage a match going south if meatshield Tai pan dies.

Either way the trait that summons the horse still makes no sense

BONUS: this team also works as a stupid Sorcerer team. And maybe works even better, with magic link, more potential magic gain, and of course Rising Shadows. Both have chaos tree, there’s some other trade offs.

If anyone has diabolist already at 100 and wants to test this with the fire blade, lemme know. Im a long ways away

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[jdk]

This team idea was born when I realized crimson bat is undead AND a monster, and thus can get +4 magic on every 4/5 match If paired with grey king (+2 to undead) and a dervish hero (+2 to monster).

Shout out to @Mana_Surgeon who helped form the concept with me and improve things Best Epic (and lower-rarity) Troops - #44 by Mana_Surgeon

With 3 slots already taken to accomplish the +4 bat-magic trick I’ve been struggling for weeks to get a good top slot troop.

This team is stupid bc my current best idea for the top slot is now the frostfire keep tank — faction troop outside of a delve! Conveniently, the wraith is also undead and also dealing true damage

(Glaycion is another good top-tank option who Is also a monster, and also creates blue to feed king and bat. Also played with Kryshound for that reason.)

This team is all blue by accident, and Jar of Eyes summon is a safety net, but I don’t actually recommend this for guild wars. Blue day seems like it’s always moon rabbit defense day, and this team is too slow to start vs the bunny.

It’s fun and stupid though, enjoy and as always I am open to suggestions!!

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[jdk]

StupidPaw. A stupid Sledgepaw team. Fill Paw first and use 5x5 block to generate mana, plus pop barriers and curse/stun first enemy.

The rest is self explanatory, loop skulls and Dart and destroy. Repeat

[TheIdleOne]

Ferocity
Ragereaver - Shaman
Ferocity
Ferocity
Kraken or Sorrowful banner

That’s pretty high on the stupid teams that still win category.

[jdk]

cross-Linking for a pretty silly new guild guardians team I saw in another thread, 3 new guardians and hopes crescent getting +12 stats, nice one @igniteice

New Guild Guardians are Great

I’m leveling up Sunspear class, and while my Skull Spam [6604,6565,6566,1248,3002,3,1,1,3,2,3,0,14004] [image] is by far my fastest team (3-4 minutes for a full explore clear of 4 explores, mini boss, plus mythic), I’ve been really enjoying this one: [6835,6835,6835,1197,3048,3,3,1,3,3,0,0,14016] [image] This one takes about 5-6 minutes for a full clear, so it’s a bit slower, but I think it’s far more consistent. You can get extremely unlikely with skull spam and end up losing. It’s very un…

[jdk]

Dargon and gargoyle team, stupid bc most of us think Dargon is pretty stupid Best Faction Troops (all modes)? - #36 by jdk

[jdk]

Three-in-One! This should tickle everyone who has been saying

1. Umenath is a weak mythic
2. Archmagus is a weak class
3. Queen Aurora is a weak mythic

One purple match, cast on the Big Cat, then off to the races. the Mirror both explodes and enchants, making an ishbaala half start unnecessary. 2 troops each pridelands and silverglade bonuses both give +atk. Also since the mirror cleanses, blesses and barriers it takes away some of the glass-cannon feel of Umenath up front.

Have at it!
Edit x2: handled a lvl 12 explore (mist of scales) just fine
Edit to add Code [6826,1263,6354,6365,3021,2,3,1,1,0,0,0,14028]

[Mana_Surgeon]

Really creative team, nice job. Reflection of Good, when used like this, may make a lot of these glass cannon troops a lot more viable in interesting ways.

[Mana_Surgeon]

I’m interested in Sledgepaw teams, so thanks for posting this one. There are clear benefits with pairing Sledgepaw with troops/weapons that change up opposing team order, to get around his restriction of attacking the first troop.

That said, does this team run into problems stalling out on mana at all? That would be my concern, since ForestG converts out both of Glaycion’s colors, and there’s no mana source feeding either Glaycion or Sledgepaw directly. Sledgepaw is pretty fast, so maybe it’s not as much of a problem as it seems on paper (especially with a +2 yellow banner)?

[jdk]

Exactly, more of a problem on paper. Sledgepaw
starts at 50% as a giant and the 5x5 “destroy” is more mana than it seems, bc they all count fully unlike explode

If the board ever does stall either cast rope dart (sometimes the destroy 3 gem affix loosens something up) or obviously the sledgepaw 5x5 block can reset a lot of things, usually while filling someone

Keen eye on the glaycion/FG conflict—but remember these are stupid teams on purpose—glaycion is less for making big doom skull combos, and more for being a tank if anything backfires and creating blue for the rope dart sometimes

Even if no doomskulls are matched on glaycion cast, if you got 4 blue still extra turn and then a 5x5 block with a bunch of stray doomskulls in it still does quite a bit of damage.

Aligning sledgepaw casts into extra turns is a fun challenge too. It’s not an effortless loop, it takes some finagling but overall I think this team is pretty safe

[jdk]

Old/Outdated Monster Team, aka Dervish class redemption

WereWolf (by request in another thread Old but.... any new teams for the werewolf? ) and Behemoth (because no one likes Behemoth anymore)

It can be a little finicky but Werewolf is surely under appreciated as a mana generator. Dervish 3rd trait ramps everyones damage up quickly, kraken will tend to hit a lot of blue matches after a were cast

This team can win (or lose) very fast depending on the board. High-variance, but speedy matches fit the modern gameplay trend of going fast.

Like all the stupid teams, it wins more than you think

[jdk]

ORCS aka 2nd dumbest team ever

This team is super stupid. But wins!! It

1. doesn’t even take advantage of the barbarian third trait thing
2. uses BOTH Grosh mythics (yep, both)

Load GarNok first and start looping. Hero Attack boosts +5, Garg magic boosts +8, and Zorn mana boosts +4 all at once on that -1 dmg. Not bad. And the back 2 are immune to death mark for L&D

I honestly didn’t even bother unlocking the barbarian 2nd or 3rd trait and this team is fine. Easy to hit over 100 attack. And you have two summons with GarNok and Zorn so even if it goes sideways you can still win if you’re patient

It looks AWFUL on paper but when you play it? Hey, could be worse trust me, it’s definitely better than the Morana/Knight team

EDIT for more specifics on why Runeforger weapon: the +10 affix stuns the first enemy which eliminates skull reduction traits, and another affix does 5 dmg to first enemy to pop barriers. Also the chip damage brings enemies into one-shot range for Zorn or Garg pretty quickly

[Denthegod]

I’m the guy from the werewolf topic. Thanks for posting these. You got anything for black beast? I put him with Luthor, green seer, and giant spider but something feels missing. Any suggestions?

[jdk]

BLACK (beast) SNACKS

This team is stupid because it’s a skull spam team with no targeted converter.

Thief class: generates hunters mark, generates gold to help egg thief, has multiple summons to feed beast, and of course half mana start and rising shadows.

Fill egg thief or hero first. “Good” mirror weapon should always cast on black beast for the positive statuses.

Other than that this ones self explanatory. Eat the drake rider, then the drake, then dragon eggs, bandits and heronaths basically forever. Sometimes you can go multiple casts without a skull match but the beast should be one-shotting things pretty quickly.

Limited play testing so far (maybe 10 pvp matches). but no losses and I did survive the hero dying once also. The problem would be if the black beast ever gets killed (like by zuul)

As long as beast is alive, it’s chaotic and fun

[XLS78]

I’ve missed this thread for the last several months! Here are a couple of recent creations:

Arcturion pretty much always fills TC and leaves some brown for LoS as well. TC can refill Arcturion and LoS. Hero is mostly just there for summoning, if needed.

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TIM is looping death incarnate when you have a bunch of souls here.

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[awryan]

Off topic?
I didn’t read the OP. Just the title.

[Denthegod]

Oooooooh snap, devs!

[XLS78]

Because I love this thread and can’t get enough - I call this team Death by a Thousand Cuts. It even uses Dao! Class doesn’t matter.

Another good name for it is Hard to Kill, which in this case definitely has a double meaning.

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[jdk]

Thanks for keeping the thread alive! I need to get more creative again and think of some new stupid teams too

[MPHWIND]

MY STUPID TEAM IS…EMPEROR KHORVASH, MOUNTAIN CRUSHER HERO, LEPRECHAUN,AND YAO GUAI… WHY THIS TEAM DOES SO WELL I HAVE NO CLUE??? JUST GLAD IT DOES… i EVEN TOOK OUT THE HERO AND PUT DWARVEN MINER WITH NO HERO STILL DID WELL EVEN IN PVP?? IF IT WASN’T FOR STUPID TEAMS I WOULD NOT BE AT OVER 1000 LEVEL.