Official Mean Machine / Angry Sprockets Guild Chat (All Friends Welcome)

Maybe we just abandon the bank idea and vacations and time-offs go to Don’s discretion entirely.

To summarize my viewpoint… I value gameplay QUALITY over gaming “quantity.” Revise the way the leaderboard is ranked, and you won’t have players like Sister’s team spending every blinkin’ waking moment doing nothing but trophy chasing.

There’s an ugly word for features that promote that type of that behaviour, and it’s called Addiction.

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Yes, read only access but it will be available for all guild members so they know where they are at. It does require a bit more work for tracking but just something I do anyway.

Sadly no, but I’ll be happy to further explain any aspect you don’t understand fully.[quote=“NYCUrbanity, post:578, topic:14878, full:true”]
I find the system promoting laziness…It allows a player to bank up GP to take a vacation…For a top 30 guild who has lost its trophy act weekly… i meanhoguns rushed up the boards while we lose our avg weeklyif we use this system i truly believe we will be taking a step backwords…but i stand with my guild if voted to use system.
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Does it really promote laziness? Check top of topic were efh gave examples of numbers that will cover new requirements. You might notice they are higher (yes higher!) then what we were voting for. 200 trophies, 300k gold and 1200 seals in a week would bring you 400+133+80 GP points for a total of 613 GP points. You would need to earn at least 100 trophies more above what we were voting for to get 1000 GP points. So it ACTUALLY HIGHER THEN WHAT WE WERE VOTING.
As for the trophies per week, we have mainten being top 20 in trophies earned amounts so we haven’t been loosing ground in that section.[quote=“HKdirewolf, post:579, topic:14878, full:true”]
Pretty much what @NYCUrbanity said. We’ve been discussing it in Discord with the help of Mako explaining it to us. It’s too much for me to re-type lol.
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Like I said to @NYCUrbanity it will require even more total contribution then what we were voting for :slight_smile:

And what stop 1/3 of the guild from doing that now? Nothing.
With the new system in place you could convert your extra game time from some week into less game time to some other week. At a rate of 1:5.

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@NYCUrbanity brings up some points that I feel I should address.

I love the GPS for the flexibility it offers, not its inherent laziness.
If enough people feel like this will lead to people CHOOSING to play less, then I say we disregard.
The bank concept was, in my mind, only to provide mental comfort in those times when life takes its toll and you need a break. We have had people leave our guild for the good of the guild during stressful times, and some have come back when it was over, but others have not, this would be a means by which they would feel ok, for a week or two, not having to “worry” about GoW and MM friends. But in the end if a player’s play begins to decline on the regularly, Im sure @DonBoba will have a private conversation with that person and make the right decision for the Guild.

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Yeah we’ve discussed it further on Discord, and I believe we’ve all come to a grand understanding. (yes you too NYC) lmao

We’re ready to push forward with trying the system out. You have my sword, General.

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Now to summarize this guild point system would actually require higher minimum requirements then 300k gold, 200 trophies and 1200 seals we were voting about. If everyone was supporting the increase in requirements, this is even further increase in requirements. But an increase that allows players to do more explore for example if they don’t feel like doing pvp for that week.
But 100 trophies still have to be earned. 1000 seals still have to be earned. Every week. On top of that guild points come. Not before.
And banking excess guild point will allow me to have the perfect view of how much time of is a member asking for. If a member didn’t earn extra GP in the past he shouldn’t be eligible for being granted a slow week.
Sorry if the system feels showed, but explaining it in guild game chat and voting again would be almost impossible. That’s why we presented it here. This system is literally an upgrade of what we previously voted and agreed about today.

I will be happy to join the discussion on discord tomorrow, but until then I can only be here or in guild game chat.

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@NYCUrbanity I agree that I want to see more trophy gains and on its surface it looks like we are allowing for less, but somebody that wants to only earn 100 trophies will need to donate nearly a million gold to compensate… where is the best place to find gold… PVP… therefore… More trophies!

I think it will end up being a positive in the long run. And if its not… we scrap it! :wink:

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If people generally have a feeling it’s to low, we can change gain of guild points for donations to be 1k extra gold = 1GP
It’s slightly higher rate and completing it would require for example:
200 trophies (400GP), 1500 seals (200GP), 600k donation (400GP).
Or
150 trophies (200GP), 1500 seals (200GP), 800k donation (600GP)
So vote, is the slightly lower rate of gaining points from donating 1k extra donation =1GP better?

I’ve posted the spreadsheet of how everyone would be right now in our discord server. I don’t wanna make it public here, so I’ll send it to Don via PM and anyone who wants the link via PM here, just ask me as well.

EDIT: Green means “good to go”, red means “you need to improve here”

EDIT 2: You can all DOWNLOAD the sheet and play with it if you want. You just can’t edit it as it is now.

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I’m just sad that @HKdirewolf didn’t post a single meme in a long time… :slight_frown: You’re our Meme Lord!

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And @HKdirewolf returns with such an “ENGAGE”-ing Meme!! :clap:

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I vote for 1keys extrait gold donated = 1GP. It even makes it much easier to calculate for everyone :slight_smile:

I’ve added a test area so people don’t have to mentally calculate their current points.

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I’ve recouped and will be happy either way aslong as I’m wit my GoW family.

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You’ll see bro system is far away from slacking :slight_smile:

All families argue, and good families get out of arguements stronger! :slight_smile: :heart:

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@efh313 slight tweek in numbers:
2k extra gold donated = 3 GP
Makes all the numbers round and is a bit more rewarding for GP gathering :slight_smile:

Ty for that!

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