New Pet - Tiny Torte

Dont know if this is true or not, and we never will.

But the economy is primarily to blame on the publisher. “Sales” give more gems not a discount on the price that would motive buyers. on xbox occasionally they discount the $20 Guild Elite pack to 5 and in my Guild historically the purchases increase 10-20 fold. in the past we would see 0-1 per week when discounted 10-30 will be bought, and I know my Guild in not unique. but it looks like accounting is not passing on that information to marketing.


Yes but in the past events they mailed out a copy and some rewards via the calendar as part of a 3 day “celebration”. Hard to say if those days are over until we hit Thanksgiving and Christmas.

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That’s honestly pretty upsetting. Not in a “Rage out, I demand free stuff!” way. Just more disappointing and sad. But I’m not surprised though. It’s things like this that really show us the old Gems of War is truly dead. And it saddens me.

Yup. Their current idea of a Gem “sale” is a joke, in my opinion.

Same here, man. When they aren’t for sale I might see a Guild mate (or two) buy maybe once a month. When they are on sale? Almost every Guild members buys it, every week, until the sale is over.

True, but so far, it isn’t looking good.

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It just seems so weird to me that some obscure holidays like Talk like a Pirate with the Skullbeak pet was mailed out, but someone/something’s birthday which is usually a day of giving and celebration won’t be giving a piece of cake (pet) to everyone.

Like if they wanted to stop giving everyone free login cosmetic pets, sure, but does it really have to start on the game’s birthday? lol


All of this discussion seems premature. IIRC, Wednesday was not the actual anniversary of the game (it’s Sunday the 18th, right?). Let’s wait until daily reset in a few hours to see if there is an event planned before going all doom-and-gloom about the state of the game.

Edit: November 20th, 2014, per Google.

Okay, I have some information to share!

  1. We still give out free things! For example, we often gift cosmetic pets throughout the year, especially in conjunction with holidays. The most recent of which was only Halloween, less than a month ago. We also had a variety of rewards for Talk Like a Pirate Day.

  2. Just because we won’t be doing 12 Days of Christmas doesn’t mean there won’t be Christmas goodies! :christmas_tree::christmas_tree::christmas_tree: The truth is, 12 Days of Christmas required a lot of extra work on our end, as files had to be deployed each day we sent rewards. (Even on days off and weekends!) As such we won’t be doing this particular celebration again, but we do have things planned for the festive season.

  3. The timing of our birthday is a bit unfortunate, in that it falls between A LOT of major holidays. There is a limit to the amount of things we are at liberty to give away, so we can’t do as much for our anniversary as we would like. It falls near Halloween, Thanksgiving, New Years AND Christmas, all of which are major holidays that we like to celebrate in-game.

  4. Due to this timing we can’t send out more rewards for our anniversary, and the Tiny Torte won’t be appearing in your mail boxes anytime soon. :frowning: However, it will be back for our next anniversary, so it is a little easier to get than other special event pets.


A little easier to get?
Which part am i misunderstanding?

So halloween and christmas etc pets are given out free copies but these holidays come around every 2 years now?


You’ll have the chance to rescue the Tiny Torte again in the future.

And Halloween and Christmas are every year as far as I’m aware? I was just mentioning that due to the high concentration of holidays at this time of year where we like to send gifts to our players, that we can’t always do so for each one.

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If the rewards need to be so tight, to the point we can’t get a cosmetic pet that at best will rewards us with some progression of the pets upgrades bar and 5 gems or an Orb of Chaos, why not simply give us a pet at level 5 already so we can’t/don’t need to upgrade it anyway?

Sorry, i don’t know how to put it mildly Salty: Not having a cosmetic pet sent by mail just because the publisher is being cheap is a dick move!

If the new order is to be so skinflint they may as well request to take away the gem keys in the codes for the whole month of December. That would probably give them a profit margin of two cents per player by the end of the year and allow ONE WHOLE marshmallow, instead of a half one, in the hot-chocolate mugs for the CEOs…


I do wonder what dollar value is assigned to cosmetic pets.


I suggest a “cosmetic” Wednesday to send out pets that were exclusive to one month but couldn’t be given freely due to restrictions from 505.

PS… Those who don’t get the pet in the 24 hours released will be less likely to spend gems on pets. Cause they can’t complete their collection due to real life. The goal of the devs/publisher should be to entice players to spend gems. Not turn them off to the whole concept because the Anniversary falls too close to the holiday season.

To 505,
I would love to spend money on GoW this holiday season but with all the new games that are coming out. I simply can’t. And by can’t…I mean I am telling my wallet not to spend money on GoW because the publisher is ruining a game I love.
If you want money. Give us things worth spending money on. Taking things that were for free, and deciding to start charging is not the way to do it.
Make a Mythic 3 Color Weapon that can only be received with actual money. Just make sure the upgrades make sense… For the love of God make sure the weapon upgrade makes sense.

Back to the cosmetic pet. Make a shop where for $1 you can get one copy of every cosmetic pet released thus far. Have the shop be open all year round. 505 gets money…players get the pet they’re missing… It’s a win win.

Well, there are costs involving the art, but we can’t assume much from art alone because… reasons:skull:

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I understand your frustrations. There are a lot of holidays coming up and we always endeavour to do nice things for our players, so we are currently focusing on those events and rewards at this point in time.

We have always sent out rewards to our players, and don’t plan to stop doing so. We want to thank you when we can, in the ways that we can, whenever possible. I wanted to be transparent with you all regarding this issue, so now I will take my leave. :heart:


Sorry Salty my frustration got me earlier so i do apologize.

I just couldn’t understand how we could get tiny tortes more easier when all event pets came by annually (unless you plan on releasing new ones) at the same time the holiday ones were given out free copies.

I appreciate you doing a brilliant job in a restricted environment by the publishers but dedicated players like me who has spent a long time and money on the game can’t help but feel punished when things like this happen.

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It’s really a small thing, so small that denying it to us evokes a sense of pettiness…
Anyway, i hope you daughter gets well soon.


@Saltypatra I think what they mean is how it isn’t easier to get the Torte than to get, say, the doll from Halloween. Because, both your guys’ anniversary and something like Halloween come, but once a year. So, how is it easier to get the Torte? Honestly, wouldn’t it be harder, in a way? Because it didn’t come in the mail like the Halloween doll. So, if say, an Xbox player (like myself) wasn’t near their Console during the 24 hrs Torte Rescue, they just completely missed out on it until next year (unless you plan on having it randomly show up for something within the next 11 months). I think that’s what people are upset about (mostly). Am I right, guys?

For the record, Salty, I say this with no anger or anything. Just trying to help :slight_smile:

You know, that brings up something ive wanted to talk about for awhile. Where are the Micro-transactions in GoW? There is nothing below 5 dollars (4.99 US + tax) in the Shop. The only real $10 items are a couple of Avatars, Arnors, and a pack of Guild Keys. But, a lot of stuff is $15 or $25, or $50.

Don’t get me wrong, I understand the need to make money, I just wish everything in the Shop wasn’t so expensive. I’m not even talking about their perceived value (that’s another conversation for another time). I’m just talking about purely what the Shop is asking for. I mean, almost any F2P game I have ever touched had .99/$1 purchases. Some even have $1.99 or $2.99 along with high tickets. But, a lot of GoW seems to be high items, or at least not super small ones, like the name MICRO-Transactions would imply.

And, personally, I’m more inclined to spend a dollar or two at a time, more often, than $25 or $50 all at once. Because, reality is, I have a couple bucks on me to spend, decently often, but, I don’t usually have $25 or $50 just laying around to spend. Heck, $25 to $50 is/could be, a new (as in sealed) or used, full game, depending on how old it is.

But, yeah, @awryan, since you brought up a $1 shop item, I just thought I would mention this as well. I have been meaning to talk about it for awhile.


Thanks Jonathan
That’s exactly what i meant :smiley:


Anytime. Generally, I try to just keep the peace on here. I like Salty and a lot of the other Devs, I’d prefer they aren’t stressed out by miscommunication.

Honestly, for the record, any time I make a comment talking about how I’m irritated with something about this game (as far as it’s practices), when I say things like: “I hate what ‘they’ are doing”, I usually mean 505. I have no issue with Salty or Kafka or any other Dev on here :slight_smile:

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That sounds weird. Are you saying that if the birthday were in February, you could give out a greater number of gifts throughout the year? What’s keeping you from moving the celebration to that month?

That sounds even weirder. The other special event pets won’t ever repeat, so there won’t be celebrations like Independence Day next year? Sad news.

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We could move the Gems of War birthday to later in the year, but then it wouldn’t be our birthday. Call us old fashioned but we like the idea of having it as close as possible to when the game was started.