I’ve been punished for my playstyle

Can you just give us the book option back?!? If people want to swap, they can—and if not, they don’t have to?

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I spent 28 books on a kingdom a week before the update. I also had 27 books ready to upgrade another kingdom but the update came out before I could use them. I would have been better off if I had not upgraded the kingdom but I am not going to run around crying about it and threaten the devs with quitting the game as I also did not do when folks got 100’s of gaps while I was at work and people ran to forums begging for a nerf before I could take advantage

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I’m not crying about it—it’s a boycott. Requesting compensation is a reasonable demand because the numbers simply aren’t right. And if nothing changes, I’ll just stop playing. Since when is that considered a threat to the devs?

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I’m sorry I’m much late to the party but I am with you entirely! Once loyalty is betrayed, that’s the end of a toxic relation. Plus, remember you can never stop a dog from barking, but I believe you are much smarter than that. Simply move on with your life!

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The developers were very fair with the power/level conversion to prestige, and perhaps overly generous with the resource conversion.

IMO, complaining and demanding compensation because the power/level conversion wasn’t also overly generous just discourages the devs from being generous in future.

I had 31 maxed kingdoms before the conversion, so I’m one of the most heavily “'punished” players there is. I managed to get the other 7 kingdoms to the equivalent or better than the old max. In real terms, I’m better off than before. Does it bother me that other players who stockpiled resources got more levels than me? Not even slightly.

To the disgruntled, would you have been happier if the resource conversion had been much less generous, leaving you worse off in real terms than you are now, but others who had more books than you didn’t gain more levels?

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I’ve got a 10-year anniversary coming up this month. :partying_face: I maxed out my VIP ranking quite a while ago. I still make purchases, and despite my extreme displeasure with the webs this week, I have no immediate plans to quit. This update is fine with me for now.

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That is awesome! I still try to contribute to the game myself, today I bought Underspire lanterns.

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From my point of view, I relatively agree with what you say, the update is good and has made it possible to have an equivalent or even a little better than before.

The conversion of power/level into prestige was fair and that of excessive for books.

I don’t think it would have changed much, no matter what happens, there would have been some disgruntled and happy people.

On the other hand, the conversion would surely have been better, if the balance between resources consumed and stored had been more balanced, even if a book gives 4-5 crystals and not 16. Everyone would still have seen an improvement without creating such significant gaps.

Anyway, the update is good, the conversion a little less, but it’s good for quite a few players who have been able to improve their kingdoms.

On the other hand, in PvP and Guild Wars, the effects are likely to be quite visible, because where players were close in stats, for some, the conversion of the LV into prestige created a huge gap in player stats… (difference that goes from a few lv per kingdom to about thirty lv… and so just as many additional stats.)

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The outcome of the update is simply terrible for those that were invested in this game.

As a guild gm, I have access to everyone’s kingdom and statistical data for guild wars. I’ve seen players in my guild gain 100+ stat points (some dont play very much) since the patch, whereas I’ve been the most active player for over 5 years, bought most offers, not all, invested wisely to progress my magic/life/attack for guild wars and I feel like my account is now 5 years behind where it should be. The amount of prestige I am behind, almost feels like I am a new player in comparison. Players are 30+ stat points ahead of me and they don’t play!

My only solace is all L60 magic kingdoms, but hey, they were all L30 ages ago because I grinded or paid, a combination. Initially I enjoyed upping the kingdoms, raising the pets, but now I’ve seen the disparity, lol, wish I’d already quit before. The gap to progress isn’t a chasm, it’s a universe.

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how many 70th Prestige kingdoms do they have?

You missed my point. It’s not about generosity; it’s about fairness.

For example, if the devs decided to remove VIP keys and convert all existing VIP keys into 1 million gems each, would that be generous? Yes. Would it be fair? Certainly not—especially for those who spent all their keys right before the patch.

Do you see the problem here? You can’t reverse the cost that players already paid. And the more generous the conversion is, the more I feel disadvantaged for having used my resources before the change. A compensation would help reduce the gap created by the conversion.

In fact, at this stage, I’m not even sure I care that much about the compensation anymore. Many guild members have already quit, and we can no longer complete events. People are playing PvP less often, which means less contribution to the guild overall.

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Why do some people in this thread feels like Joffrey Baratheon ??

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One of my faves him. Evil little prick that he was, the actor who played him did a fantastic job. Them last 2 seasons though :pensive_face:

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I got your point just fine. You’re really bothered by what other people got compared with you. I already made my point, I’m happy with what I got. I’m just not concerned if others got more than me.

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Lol its called envy.

We got the level we were at.

And lower players got a boost.

Big deal.

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Maybe you can answer my question above, I struggle to find the correct words this morning.

Lol i dunno.

Joffrey was a, A sexual, serial killer.

That needed a good smack.

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That wouldnt fit at all. I think maybe the trait or whatever I was looking for is that certain players “demand” that things changes or they will leave.. something Jofferey would do/say.


They keep playing the game btw, even if they say they will leave, always.

Been a while since I watched the episodes with him, but that doesn’t seem right at all. Joffrey was more keen on misusing his power, forcing others to do what he wanted and then laughing about it. And he liked hurting others. He doesn’t feel like a good example of what you’re trying to accuse others of.
Sounds more like Achilles, he threatened to (and then did) leave if he didn’t get what he wanted.
I’m sure there’s other examples (especially more recent ones, lol), but just thinking Joffrey doesn’t make sense.

I do agree that the lack of fairness is an issue, and lots of other characters disliked Joffrey for HIS lack of fairness. Maybe you were thinking of the devs? Seems a bit harsh, though. Joffrey was awful (and the actor was great).

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I wasn’t comparing anyone to Joffrey in terms of cruelty or sadism. The comparison was specificaly about the attitude of “give me what I want or I’ll leave.”

Joffrey may not be the perfect example, so if that analogy doesn’t work for you, that’s fine. My point wasn’t about personality traits overall, but about using the threat of leaving as leverage to get changes made.

The broader issue I was trying to highlight is that some players seem to belive their prefered playstyle should carry more weight than everyone else’s, and when it doesn’t, they threaten to quit. Whether that pressure is justified or not is a seperate discussion, but that’s the behaviour I was critisizing.

As for fairness, I think that’s exactly where most of the disagreement comes from. Different groups of players have very different ideas about what a fair game looks like, which is why these debates tend to go in circles.

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