where did they get books if not playing game? maybe it would work with a crystals too, so let me know please. Or do you mean people playing only a journey week 1 per month and now they’re higher than you? Noone have just sitting on a pile of books without stats but if ithey were now they’re sitting at a pile of crystals not using them for a progression.
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I think we both agree that spending books on leveling kingdoms before 9.2 effectively results in lost XP.
I’m not sure whether you like stochastic analysis, but if players always spend books once they accumulate 30 of the same color, then this kind of loss is mathematically inevitable.
For players who farm 5 books per week, about 25.7% of them would have had a kingdom maxed within the 2 weeks before the patch. For players farming 4 books per week, it’s about 21.6%. For 3 books per week, it’s 17.2%. There’s also a smaller percentage of players who would have had 2 or more kingdoms maxed during that period. You can ask GPT to verify the math.
Although most people benefit from the conversion overall, there is still a non-negligible number of players who suffer losses. And this could have been avoided by simply reduce the conversion factor.
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You think of conversion rate as if it exists by itself. Like if we know the conversion would be “that” we would do something 2 years ago - and this is wrong - as for me - the main purpose of conversion is to make your PROGRESS achieved in 9.1 similar to your progress in 9.2 - just progress, not the resources spend. If devs have decided to wipe all progress and give you resources instead of spend ones - the rate would be different, to adjust the progress and probably much worse. There’s no way the ones who have no 20/30 or close kingdoms become more powerfull in terms of prestige.
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But i agree that info about upcoming sugmificant changes in a progression mechanics should be announced ingame for everyone to make their decision - to spend books or not)
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Of course it’s not an independent factor. I’m complaining because the developers take too few things into account. They didn’t consider the resources spent. I don’t see why the maximum XP cost has to be 1000 per level and has to be capped at level 27. Those numbers are all tunable for balancing.
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If they were sitting at 15 Kingdom and which power also is based on Kingdom level. They did. They get the crazy book conversion rate, plus all the xp from the leveled-up troops and pets 300 xp chunks. Its basic math. They are double dipping. Yes, there are many players who get to kingdom 15 and just accumulate books over the years. The book conversion rate should have been 4 crystals. Anyway, after tomorrow and get the last PVP season goal, it is uninstall time for this game am puzzle quest 3. I do have all the achievements in both games. So, they are losing a long time player in both. I am not a sheep the puts up with errors in fairness. They should value time spent.
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So nothings gonna change
And pvp isnt real pvp.
So other peoples levels dont actually effect our own levels.
So i dont understand the comparing of what i have or got, with anyone else.
Maybe some of you after iv said this, the penny will drop. Lol il assume not.
But maybe you can stop, when it hits a thousand replys. As its done now, nothings changing. And your wasting breath.
But good luck. Il see you at the end to say. Told you so. 
Ps. Im in your boat
20 full kingdoms
3 at 19
2 at 18
1 at 17. Rest at 16.
I didnt hoard, j just dont see the big problem. You guys have.
If others have got better, good on them. There not a direct enemy. So i just dont get the problem lol.
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Today I will uninstall the game. 
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If you do not understand basic math, you may want to go back to school. The game is easier with the extra skill points for the people who frankly do not deserve them. It’s like a +70 skill point difference. People like you make gaming bad by accepting terrible decisions not based on math and logic. Then you criticize people calling out the unfairness. Catering to the sheep is easy. Catering to people who want fairness is ‘hard’.
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Why, what happened @Skorpion ??
But which endgame players did not use their books in the old system? We may be talking about less than 1% of the playerbase here?
I think there is a large player base that do not watch streamers and understand the kingdom / power fully. I know many players in the mid guilds I was in that did not understand that skill points are gained at certain levels. It’s not really explained in the game. In high end guild, there were players that were the same levels as me with less 20/30 kingdoms went 10 to 20 levels past me on each kingdom. They had a lot of books. In the last 2 months I upgraded each color 1 time. Four - 2 days before the announcement. Yes, bad timing, but it should have been accounted for. Like what the …
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And now you find yourself locked behind those annoying shiny troop reqs, as the kingdoms troop is maxed and the one in the middle too and no crystals? That is a story I share and it is not a fun one.
Yep, sitting on 40 - 54 with no hope. The people who had all the books and less 20/30’s are 50-65 or 60 / 75. It is the reality of what I saw in the guild I am in. My 5 years of gathering books went poof.
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May I ask how ure not higher if you maxed many kingdoms in the old system? I thought most players easily exceeded level 40-54 when they had maxed most of the kingdoms in the old system to 30.. but that only means perhaps, they reached level 50 in the new system?
I hoarded for over a year lol, but it was partially out of laziness. I prefer to optimize my spending and simply didn’t have the motivation to open my spreadsheet. Of course when I finally did, the update was announced a week later…
I did the same most of the other resources I have, because there is no endgame mode in GoW. There was no point to upgrade for marginal benefits.
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I had 9 maxed. A few at 17 for the hoard bonus. The rest 15. I had like 10 total books that converted over. I spent 120 books 2 days before the announcement and the 2 other colors 6 weeks before. That upgrading all 6 colors also consumed my medals, glory orbs, and pet orbs. So I was resource poor. I could hardly get any 300 xp bumbs. Fun Fun. Thus, I sent in the ticket to support and was instant rejected. Now, why keep playing if they did not account for people with few books because they were spent. Again, the conversion should have been 4 crystals per book. Then there would have been no issues. I am not sure why they did not do the math. 30 books spent was given 100 Crystals worth of XP instead of 480. Like why.
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Discussing “what if scenarios” seem like a waste of time to me?! I fully upgraded my 1st kingdom exactly 11 months ago and recently finished my 24th just a few days before the update. Instead of calculating and complaining about the stats I maybe could have had, I just play and continue upgrading my kingdoms again.
After the conversion I had 5 in their 40s and all the others between 50 and 60. That’s good enough for me as it still came with a stat boosts. So I’m looking forward to bring every kingdom to 50 first and 60 later on. Then we’ll see where to go from there …
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I would like the developers to explain how this was adequate (especially for kingdom levels 16 to 20). Do they even understand how much time, resources, effort, and in some cases (money) was involved upgrading kingdoms beyond level 15?
Of course they do not. And they never will. But whoever decided these conversions had no respect for people who tried to max out their kingdoms. If you were not one of the people who tried to do this, you will never understand where we are coming from.
And I can understand why Skorpion quit. He had no crystals to upgrade his kingdoms, while his friends got an advantage for playing less. He should have at least been able to get his kingdoms to Prestige level 60, but he could not even do that.
It is an example of a horrible calculation that disrespected some of the most veteran players. And the people who visit these forums probably do not even account for 5% if the player base, so the ripples of this decision are probably much, much worse than what is being said here. I will try to not comment on this again because there will be no sympathy anyway. What’s done is done.
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Good luck. Dozens of comments so far asking for explanations, and the only excuse so far is “you dodged our new population system” which isn’t true, since players have pointed out their kingdoms were converted and then able to level up without the population limit having any effect.
And in this thread alone, the only official response has been asking about how someone has knowledge of a past beta test, no response on people being unhappy about the bad conversion rate.
They should have given the kingdoms raised to higher levels a better conversion rate. They’ll never admit they screwed large numbers of players over and maybe they just don’t care.
Exactly.
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