You guys are the reason itās worth to visit these forums.
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I think itās time to close/lock this thread for good.
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Seriously all itās doing is fostering bitterness.
There are a lot of people here for whom āif you egregiously exploit an infinite-premium-currency glitch, you will be permabannedā seems to be a difficult or unexpected concept.
Greetings. For your own future reference: this will also be true in every online game you play in the future, too. Shocking, I know, but thatās how it works.
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I will, as a precaution, buy spoils of war only 99 times and keep the keys for one year. That seems to be the limit
You are wrong with respect to this game though and this is the crux of the problem. In the past players have exploited bugs and poor design decisions and they have not been banned and in some cases nothing at all has happened to them. The issue that is justifiably being complained about is the consistency of the punishment handed out by the Devs.
I agree they should all be bannedā¦ but I think they should ALL be banned or none of them banned, not this arbitrary split on who gets permabanned and who gets virtually no punishment at all.
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Iām not talking about prior bugs or infractions at all - Iām simply saying that this was an egregious, blatant cheat that produced infinite premium resources, and anyone who dived into it headfirst was obviously going to get banned. Thisā¦seems pretty straightforward.
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You are absolutely right. You only get one gift lol
This entire post should be banned. And the one that made this as well. She know better then too flaim the community. Bravo I say. So professional of you.
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Maybe Iām missing something because itās such a huge thread, but what evidence do we have that some kind of egregious infinite-gems cheater got off with no punishment? I feel like the only facts I know are:
- The devs picked a level of abuse that constituted āunforgiveableā and everyone at or above that level is gone.
- In case mistakes were made, an appeal process is available.
- Nobodyās successfully appealed.
If any of those are incorrect, this thread does a poor job of highlighting the problem.
If the problem is with āthey picked a level at all instead of banning everyoneā, I just donāt think that flies.
It seems like it wouldāve been possible to accidentally get the gems a second time. If youāre particularly absent-minded, you might have even triggered it multiple times without realizing you were getting multiples. I sure would. That would show up in game logs as āseveral repetitions with several hours between, correlating strongly with delivery of Legendary Tasks and other mails.ā Thatās a rational explanation for āI did it 6 timesā. I get the feeling the vast majority of bans were people who spammed it 20+ times per minute. I really struggle to contrive an innocent scenario for that. āI had a grand mal seizure and ended up tapping the phone in exactly the pattern to receive 4,000 gemsā?
So until I hear a plausible story from a person I trust, Iām left to assume thereās not a very blurry line.
I agree that if you limit your thinking to only this one issue then you should correctly assume you would be banned for taking advantage of poor development. However, two things are wrong with that assumption:
- Cheaters have not been perma-banned in the past for egregious offenses
- Some of the cheaters for this offense have also not been perma-banned.
So if I were to have taken advantage of this issue I would be wondering if I did it too much or just enough, I would think that the right thing to do would have been to walk the bleeding edge of getting free stuff but not enough of it to get perma-banned.
I disagree with the Devs making an arbitrary decision about what constitutes a perma-ban and what constitutes virtually no punishment.
From your list though its been shown in this thread that the appeal process is BS, someoneās 11 year old appealed and was flat out told there is no appeals to the perma-ban.
For those who want to lock this threadā¦
Otherwise, if the discussion is still civil-ishā¦ Then you donāt need a mod to tell people they canāt talk here anymore.
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As I said in another thread, I just ask you to have the same hard hand with the exploits we see in PVP absolutely every week
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The very moment that a guild wars bug produces an infinite supply of premium currency, and people immediately dupe and spend thousands of it, Iām sure they will.
1500 gems should be sufficient. Since 1000 gems got people banned.
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Jumping in to say a few things.
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We are confident with our decision, and have been drawing a harder line in general with our banning over the last few months.
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As long as this thread stays civil, we will keep it open. I believe it is important for players to be able to voice their opinion, whether in support of us or against us.
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This exploit was unfortunate, but we didnāt ban anyone that didnāt abuse it to excess.
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You go girl! Donāt take no guff from them bankers!
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But those pvp and gw cheaters. Wellā¦
Silly man. We wonāt stand for much more of that.
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Should Salty get banned too? 
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