[quote=“Tard_Carnival, post:51, topic:11906”]
It’s because society bases the value of men and women on different criteria.[/quote]
Welcome to The Point!
Ah, too bad, you just missed it…
[quote=“Robert, post:83, topic:11906, full:true”]
The issue originated from peoples discomfort with the sexualisation of female troops. It should be black and white for them.[/quote]
This is not one issue, let alone one that just started today. This is just the continuation and update of a discussion several of us had on a few occasions, on a rather broad but important topic (sexism, notably in video games), and on how it applies to GoW in particular, in light of the introduction of yet another half-naked female character in the game today.
A key point I think was developed and discussed in the previous thread (the one that @Koolbiird didn’t get to read, among others ^^): that there are varying degrees to which this phenomenon applies, and that today’s example (Corrupt Sorceress) is what we could call “less worse” compared to a number of past offenders in this game.
Also, double standards are being applied by a lot of those who generally brush off this topic as a non-issue, often due to the blissful ignorance that privilege provides. Many people who just “don’t see the problem” with almost all female characters of this game being represented as a pair of evocative boobies with an optional woman behind them, would likely freak out if the devs released even one male character, say, showing us his half-covered butt in a similar fashion.
You don’t get to see Batman’s buttocks, that just doesn’t happen. The cape deliberately covers them at all times and against all odds. Hell, you seldom even get to see Robin’s butt, even though he’s basically a walking gay fantasy cliché. Bat-Girl, on the other hand (you know which one)…
In GoW, you have a guy like Thrall, who is basically a sex slave, but the art won’t show even a hint of his crotch area, front or back (and that is what counts as sexual parts for a guy - showing off his ridiculously ripped manly torso isn’t objectifying in any way). Meanwhile, you have something like Rowanne, who is basically a female Pinocchio, and her wooden skin thickens to create the illusion of a suit of armor… conveniently forming a freaking cleavage. So, it’s a little imbalanced, to say the least. 
However, it doesn’t mean that it’s a black and white issue, far from it. The above was just said to prove a point.
Not everyone who sees that there are persistent clichés in popular culture, as in society at large, which consistently belittle women and reinforce men (which there are), is necessarily a women’s rights activist. Just like not everybody who don’t see it is automatically a sexist, let alone knowingly so. There’s no villain that our heroes can swiftly defeat in order to save the day, here. Sexism, like most evils, is in all of us, in varying ways, shapes, and forms. At the end of the day, no matter how we resolve this discussion, women will still be paid significantly less than men on average for the same job. Some jackass will still throw a tantrum if his date won’t let him spend the night with her “even though” he paid for the restaurant. Some brainless bimbo will still get a free pass on gross negligence at her job because her manager has a crush on her boobs. There will be at least multiple naked women for the whole family to see on the TV screen tonight, commanding their subconscious to buy That Yogurt or That Car. It’s all connected, and it takes generations of noticing it, discussing it, and actively challenging it every chance we get for it to keep receding (as it has for generations, overall, except in some communities, and of course online). Baby steps…
The best we can hope to achieve here specifically? Well, if even one person reads this thread and it encourages them to give more thought on this topic, it’s a win. If one such person happens to be working on this game and this thread springs to mind the next time they’re designing a troop, even better.
Beyond that, and I feel it’s important to spell out, given a few posts here and in the previous thread: this is a DISCUSSION FORUM. We can have a discussion. Full stop. It doesn’t need to accomplish a set goal. =)
I was under the impression you made it abundantly clear you didn’t care that much even before that, though. Points for effort and sticking around, at least. Baby steps? =)
It’s okay. Show us on the doll where the mean lady touched you… Oh, she touched you in your ego? 
