I feel like 100% chance at full-green explosions plus extra turn was too much. What about:
Explode a random number of Green Gems (at least one). Gain an Extra Turn.
I feel like 100% chance at full-green explosions plus extra turn was too much. What about:
Explode a random number of Green Gems (at least one). Gain an Extra Turn.
Maybe instead of pure random a range like 4-12 green gems
Shameless self-promotion, but my idea is in line with this manner of thinking:
Even with no buff at all, that seems like too much? Not arguing, just curious…
Is it just too much mana generated (essentially guaranteeing that some other Goblin is going to fill up and keep the cycle going)?
Might be, but I think it’s borderline, because a single Green explosion + Extra Turn would actually be worse than Goblin Rocket, where you have control over what you explode. So sometimes she’d be great, and other times she’d be mediocre, but no matter what, you could count on her for some mana, some board manipulation, and an extra turn.
What makes her feel so bad after the nerf, in my opinion, is not necessarily the mana you don’t gain when she misfires but the fact that she doesn’t shake up the board at all in that case.
Goblin rocket also does damage when he casts, so it should definitely be more than 1 gem exploded for PF, just to keep pace with GR.
But Fizzbang has the potential to destroy the whole board, so it’d balance out. Sometimes she’d be worse than Rocket (when the die roll gives you one kaboom), usually she’d be better (when it gives you 2+).
In my opinion, that’d really cement her as a reckless exploder. Sometimes you get huge explosions, sometimes just itty bitty ones. Either way, you get to go again.
Yes, in a previous post, you’d mentioned that casting her now can feel like a wasted move, but you’re still buffing something and getting an extra turn, so you are unquestionably better off than when you started.
Between the art, lore and concept of this troop, I feel like it should be fun and goofy, so a random number of exploded gems, or even some of the suggestions like having a random chance of something bad happening to your own troops, feels appropriate.
True…then again, we already have Nobend Brothers for the “random chance of something random” happening. I think her identity should be cemented as an exploder, and not a buffer. That’s my two cents, though, and I recognize not everyone agrees.
Instead of a random number of gems, just make it random gems; e.g, “Explode X (3, 5, whatever) random Green gems (or hell, just “random gems” with no color qualifier). Gain an extra turn.” She’d still feel like she did before; she’d have a random element; she couldn’t blow up the entire board; she wouldn’t touch stats.
I just want to add that i am enjoying this discussion so thank you @Stan and @Lyya.
Fizzy was well on her way to becoming my favorite troop until this morning and i would live to se her set back on that path
My general experience with her was:
Didn’t had many battle against her because of my limited time for the game lately.
I showed my wife the art and concept of Princess Fizzbang and she was really excited to get her. The thought of having her, Holly Hobgoblin, Queen Grapplepot and Bugbear (I can’t tell you what she calls this guy, but it is funny in a very non-PC way) on a single team would make up for a lot of negatives in the game. I know that’s not an ideal Goblin team, but sometimes you just have to do what makes you happy and not worry about min-maxing everything.
You simply must PM me this! I could use a hearty laugh!
Its good to see that so many wants another rework on her. Keeps my hopes UP! ![]()
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Actually, let’s run through the math to differentiate her from Goblin Rocket.
Ta da! “Explode 5 random gems. Gain an extra turn.” with no additional effect, at a 13 mana cost, would keep her balanced similarly to the Goblin Rocket while still retaining the unique feel (and fun!) that she had to begin with.
I know how much fun she was to play on pvp, but she was on her way to completely destroying guild wars, which is a major focus on a lot of players. Talk about Kerberos FG all over again but a zillion times worse.
It was fully possible to make one or two moves, then never get another move because of her spell. That might be fun in pvp where it was a race to power your fizzbang first, but using monocolors and having no direct counter I.E red day and having only 5 battles with REAL consequence (it’s costing me gems
) is zero fun and a tad bit stressful.
She’s still pretty beastly on defense, so I wouldn’t say we’re out of the woods there.
Oh she is but I can handle her now
“The stat buff didn’t fit with her to begin with (how is she exploding you healthier or exploding you meaner?). Remove the stat buff entirely, and return the explosion and extra turn to how it was, and she’ll “feel right” again without runaway inflation slamming allies’ stats up to 1000.”
For the love of Tentacled Deities could you people stop applying logic to a match 3 game with CCG elements? We are talking about a game where beasts eat robots and skeletons, you know.