Can You Stun Hero Talents?


#1

So, I was in a state of giddy euphoria watching the banishment talent pop tower barriers during Invasion. Then suddenly, I noticed that barriers failed to pop when I made a 4 match. After getting over my annoyance, I realized that my hero was stunned.

TLDR; Can hero talents be stunned or is this a bug?
@Saltypatra @Cyrup


#2

You can, hero talents work like extra trails. I saw that many time.


#3

I think they might have stealth added stunning talents. I don’t think it worked like that at patch release. Or I’m wrong lol


#4

Yes. Can also confirm this, have tested in-game. Stunned hero loses the talent effects. Figures, as they are just extra traits.


#5

Thanks to all. :smiley_cat: This is good to know then. I didn’t notice it working like this initially.


#6

I’m pretty sure it wasn’t. If it was a ninja fix, it is appreciated.


#7

Pretty sure it was :grinning: one of the first things I nosed into and tested…

Ninja fixes are rare. Devs are usually open about anything changed.

Fixes, even, are rare enough these days.


#8

:man_shrugging:

We’ll probably never know, and it really doesn’t matter. As long as they can be stunned, then all is right with the world.


#9

When this patch hit. I distinctly remember someone saying that talents couldn’t be stunned. Not saying I caused the change. But I know I mentioned the frustration of not being able to stun and stop the endless bandit summon less than a week ago.
Ninja fixes still happen… Such as off the top of my head.

  • Draakulis steal life used to not buff from fairie fire.
  • Draakulis steal life would gain life despite barriers.

And most can remember this one…


#10

I definitely bitched about it, but I don’t think I tested it that carefully. It is definitely possible that they were stunnable and I was just wrong, though you’d think someone would have pointed out my error at that time.

And ninja-fixes are most certainly a thing, particularly right after a patch or sometimes right before when they are pushing partial data to servers and causing unintended bugs. That soulforge fix was a massive change and it took 3 months before we found out.


#11

I would hope that @Kafka would’ve told me I was an idiot (in a nice way) and mentioned that talent trees could be stunned if it was true at the time. She’s really good about asking other devs if she doesn’t know for sure.


#12

Hey sorry for the delayed reply.

@awryan I think I remember telling you talents can’t be stunned but I’ve just checked and if I did say that I was very wrong sorry!

Talents can be stunned, I’ve just confirmed it with 2 devs.


#13

Is it intended? Because it’s meh and Stun description doesn’t say anything about talents…

Why not a new status effect “Shame: block talent”? <- it’s a joke we have enough of them…


#14

Yes it’s intended.


#15

Talents are just extra traits (passive effects like all the others - most of them parallel existing troop traits). Repeating myself I guess.

I think it’s good that Stun cancels them - both intuitive and useful.

Just needs the help text to be clear that Stun also negates Talents.


#16

Thanks for the official confirmation.