I was so close to getting this trophy. Hopefully I can still unlock it normally in the new version.
So that’s it? You just changed it? You’re not selling the item you described when I bought the pass. Is that even legit?
Hi Jeto,
how are we supposed to check for Shiny Troops at task #16 and task #20 of Track 3, when there is no filter/sort option to check for shiny troops in our troop collection?
If writs are going away how can we create Vault keys?
Vault keys use treasure maps, my brother XD
I’m not sure it matters as it’s not like you can target the shiny key or dust to specific troops.
Speaking as someone with 32 kingdoms at level 20 and 31 of those also at power 30, I’m happy with how this update is looking.
I’m not angry that stockpiling deed books and staying at lower level would have made me better off after the update. I’m happy my maxed kingdoms will go to prestige 50, and the others will no longer be blocked by books (which were getting harder to obtain since I no longer needed green and purple).
To those thinking power/level to prestige conversion is unfair compared with book to crystal conversion, I think it’s more the case that the power/level conversion is fair and the book conversion is generous.
Jeto, please push shiny troop tasks down to deeper levels of task chain 3. It is almost impossible for F2P players to gain shiny level 3 troops. I have none at the moment, and my guild has regularly completed all guild event rewards every week. The only more source of shiny keys is PvP shops, which I haven’t bought any yet. Even “2 shiny level 2” task is locked for 1/3 of my kingdoms.
You can add class level tasks back to that task chain, to fill in those place. In 9.1 now there are tasks for class level 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80 and 100. In 9.2 there is only 20. I think at least 40, 70 and 100 are good milestones that need to bring back.
For some context, all my kingdoms are now kingdom level 18+ / kingdom power 27+. except Mydnight (16/17), Vulpecea (17/24), and Nexus (18/26). A few kingdom reaches KL 19 for faction bonus. About half kingdoms reaches power 28 or 29, other half still blocked by gold elite troops. Only Zul’kari reaches 20/30.
As someone who has been playing for 6 years, I absolutely support my colleague!!! You can set this up in a week. I think we should calmly hold the Guild War next week, and then update 9.2 on May 26-28.
I assume they checked this. My guess would be as long as the item fills the same role in the game and has an equal or greater value, it’s allowed. Crystals are replacing writs and deeds, so they will fill the same roles, and it looks like the new rewards are higher value. So, probably allowed.
For now, we can at least filter by kingdom then scroll through and look at them, since they’ll have the icon in the corner. But we really need to be able to filter and search by shiny levels and whether or not troops can be shiny.
It’s not so much that it’s unfair vs fair/generous. It’s uneven, I guess, would be my issue. Why is one treated differently than the other? To me, they should be treated the same, and they aren’t, which means people won’t be treated the same, which feels wrong.
True at the moment, but they are adding shiny dust to places, so hopefully it’ll get easier. And once books leave PvP shop, I guess they want us to buy shiny keys instead. They need to make sure players can level up shiny levels, otherwise that just becomes the bottleneck that books was.
But I agree it’s weird they took class level tasks out and added more shiny tasks.
Sharing in this thread for visibility. I put together some advice and Prestige Level calculator that should help alleviate concerns:
https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/9-2-maths-corner/89657/36?u=ddpgreen
Also, I’ve seen some concern voiced about the tasks blocking progress. I believe that’s not the case. What I understand now after several re-reads of the blog is that the Tasks we’ve been worried about (shiny troops, upgrading weapons, etc.) aren’t actually blockers. We won’t have to complete those to continue upgrading kingdoms. They just reward kingdom-specific crystals for more XP. Colored and Rainbow Crystals can still be used for XP.
The only real blocker will be Global Population, which just means we’ll have to keep all kingdom levels fairly close to each other.
@Jeto Can you confirm (or at least best-guess
)?
The spreadsheet tool is really useful. Not looking to overload you, but any chance you can make something similar to work out the conversion from writs, deeds and books to crystals?
It would be great to see exactly what your current values will convert to, and how to spend any writs, to get the best deal. But I’m not sure how easy that is to do on a spreadsheet. You’d need a formula to look at the amount of something someone has, and determine the remainder, and then advise whether they should try to get a set amount or stay the same.
I can think of a way to do that for deeds, but it might not be the most efficient way and wouldn’t work for the writs. So if you have a idea for it, that’d be great.
Very doable with the power of the modulo operator! I’ll add that to the same sheet.
cause they are different. The ones, who have maximized kingdoms allready have a stats from them, have had some hour of glory by showing their achievment to a guildmates, everyone in global or so, and their progress will be at 50 prestige without any Global Population issues. The one who haven’t will have to make it manualy - rise one kingdoms to match GP level and then rise the ones they want to. To be fair - speculations and spoilers about this update have been a long term thing, so those who wanted to plan their progression could just sit and wait for a release notes (not me, i’ve rise a 2 kingdoms to 30pwr that time). It’s like a Essence of evil moaning about last perk - as if we all know it would be a problem… Some prefer to rise a kingdom and not to wait, some does not - the first was more powerfull and have got more tribute for a some period ot time rather than others - that’s the price as for me.
If I am understanding what you are asking correcting
- Tasks are no longer blockers - you don’t have to complete all 3 tasks anymore. As soon as you complete one, you collect the XP for it and a new task appears. You could only get blocked if you were unable to complete all 3 tasks.. even then you don’t have to do tasks to earn XP - crystals are rewarded throughout the game now and they are exchanged for XP (or Kingdom XP is just a reward in some places)
- Global Population - I explain here that yes, you can get blocked from levelling a Kingdom if you do not meet the global population requirements
Summary
Perfect, thank you! ![]()
Not for many of the level increases. And even if they did, so what? They spent resources to get those stats and they keep them anyway. Why would that matter?
Who is doing this? Really? And why would that matter on whether you get a different amount when converting resources?
Going by the calculator, after the update I’ll be able to level any kingdom straight to about 54 or 55 prestige. Population doesn’t seem to be as much of a barrier as some people fear. So why should that be the main reason why some people are going to be worse off than others, when both earned the same amount but one allocated it and one didn’t?
But why should that matter? Why should it affect how the resources get converted?
If I spend it now or spend it after the update, it should be worth the same. Not more for not allocating it to a set kingdom.
Not that I’ve seen. Definitely not that most players have seen, since speculations and spoilers are hidden away in corners of the forum and a handful of places online. Most players won’t see that. Why should they be affected?
A player who hasn’t seen any of this could spend their books hours before the update, get less resources from the conversion and have nothing to show for it. How does that make sense? And if they allocated the resources to kingdoms that aren’t their highest, it wouldn’t even have been affected by population. None of these points make any sense, and they don’t justify people being treated differently.
No, it’s really not.
You can see what the perk is before allocating resources. You can make an informed decision. And everyone is in the same position.
It’s completely different.
The linked sheet has been updated with the auto-conversion values.
I’m still working on incorporating the advice on how many writs to convert. If I can get something working that I’m happy with before the weekly reset, I’ll add it to the sheet. Otherwise, break out your calculators! ![]()
Imagine a player who haven’t spend ANY deed he collect - just collect them and leave it be. And the one who spend every single to rise a kingdom. Who would feel more comfortable while playng? Obviously it would be the second. The first will suffer with the lack of stats. But after 9.2 the 1st could freely get a much more stats than 2nd. That’s the difference - get an advantage here and now or suffer now and get more later
Who didn’t? it’s kinda MMO mobile game - competitions between others is a main source of endorfines here)