Treasure Guardian Community Drop Rates

[Julli-of-North]

Ultra-rare: 2 torches
Rare: 1 nysha token

[TheIdleOne]

@TheIdleOne

2,3,3,3,3,1

That’s the entire map explored in 148 Battles. Only thing left are dead-ends without guardians. All Merchants found too.

The entire week:

Common - Undead Sentinel
Common - 20 Shards
Common - 1 Torch
Rare - 1 Token of Gaard
Rare - 10 Garnet
Ultra Rare - 2 Token of Anu
Ultra Rare - 2 Torches
Ultra Rare - 2 Bone Trinkets
Ultra Rare - 3 Runic Magic Traitstones
Epic - 20 Emerald
Epic - 2 Wild Trinkets
Epic - 1 Vault Key
Legendary - 10 Cursed Runes
Legendary - 3 Res Trinkets
Mythic - 5 Diamonds

Common: 1 Torch
Common: 1 Torch
Common: 5 Emeralds
Common: 20 Shards
Rare: 1 Token of Nysha
Ultra-Rare: 2 Torches
Ultra-Rare: 3 Runic Water Traitstones
Epic: 2 Torches
Epic: 2 Torches
Epic: 2 Torches
Epic: 2 Bone Trinkets
Epic: 2 Bone Trinkets
Mythic: 3 Token of Nysha

Nothing today, ending in a 2,3,3,3,1,1 for a total of 13 Guardians. Seems fair enough to me.

I guess it’s worth noting I had 148 battles for a full map reveal again for the 2nd week in a row. Makes for “easier” budgeting I guess, though I can’t really plan how many Torches I’ll find.

Not that my words have any sway, but … the Underspire is a lot more “fun” when we were given those 10 extra Torches earlier this week as compensation. It lets you get invested in the Underspire sooner and want to continue the progress when they’re used up.

I’ll have 10 Torches from the Guardians bug available for next week, but I wish they would consider making it the norm from now on… starting the Underspire with 17 Torches over 7 Torches.

[Schaafy]

Agreed, literally the 10 extra torches could easily push me over the “meh ill just get to boss 2 this week” into the “ill spend 650 gems to complete it” territory. Also, ~13 treasure guardians seems reasonable. Anywhere around 50% of dead ends would make sense to me. If you have your whole map explored, it wouldnt hurt to count the total dead ends to see if people have a similar percentage.

[TheIdleOne]

This week’s map/13 Guardians

Last week’s map/15 Guardians

@Schaafy

If you have your whole map explored, it wouldnt hurt to count the total dead ends to see if people have a similar percentage.

Unfortunately, I’m not the kind of person that likes to count dead ends up. Those are my 2 maps from last week and this week if someone else wants to do it.

[Schaafy]

1st one is 35 dead ends, subtract 6 bosses and 5 merchants so 24 dead ends total with 15 treasure guardians

2nd one is 38 dead ends, subtract 6 bosses and 5 merchants so 27 dead ends total, with 13 treasure guardians

So looks like about 50% could be accurate.

[MysticWeirdo]

common: 1 torch
rare: 10 garnet
rare: 10 garnet

[platinumpwnzor]

@NerdieBirdie

I removed the x2 token drop from Rare rooms. It was only reported twice. If anyone sees this drop, please provide a screenshot. I’ll keep an eye out for anyone reporting it down the line.

Common - 1x Token of Yasmine
Rare - 1x Token of Nysha
UR - 2x Torches
UR - 2x Token of Anu
UR - 2x Wild Trinkets

[Esplin]

Rare: 3 Minor Water Traitstones.

[SevenSidedBox]

Common - 2 Minor Water traitstones
Ultra Rare - 20 Garnets
Epic - 2 Frost Trinkets
Epic - 2 Torches

[NerdieBirdie]

@platinumpwnzor

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@platinumpwnzor

UR - 2x Token of Anu

Is this screenshot in addition to the x2 Anu you reported in the UR room? The bit you quoted from me was asking for screenshots of x2 tokens from Rare (green) rooms, not Ultra-Rare (blue) rooms

[NerdieBirdie]

Up to date

[platinumpwnzor]

@NerdieBirdie

Is this screenshot in addition to the x2 Anu you reported in the UR room? The bit you quoted from me was asking for screenshots of x2 tokens from Rare (green) rooms, not Ultra-Rare (blue) rooms

Oops, you’re right. I 5am misremembered and only skimmed what I quoted. I thought you were looking for UR.

[Rockwell]

Rare: 10 x Amethyst
Ultra Rare: 2 x Resistance Trinkets
Legendary: 10 x Cursed Runes
Mythic: 3 x Tokens of Anu

[Schaafy]

Common
–Topaz x5
–20 Shards

Rare
–Token of Nysha x1
–Token of Nysha x1
–Torch x2

Ultra-Rare
–Token of Orpheus x2

Epic
–Torch x2
–Token of Yasmine x2
–Hex Trinket x2

Legendary
–Torch x3

Mythic
–Token of Gaard x3

29 dead ends - 6 bosses - 5 merchants = 18 total dead ends, 11 treasure guardians, seems like they should be pretty common in general. As long as it doesnt go back only like 3 total, this is acceptable.

[MysticWeirdo]

mythic: 1 lantern
mythic: 5 diamonds
common: 5 emeralds
common: 2 minor wind traitstones

16 treasure guardians out of 28 dead ends.

[TimeKnight]

My map this week. Was too excited to explore and wish to get Guardian troop drop (no luck), that I forget to record the drop.

So… I have a new theory on how Guardian Room spawn work.

@Schaafy

So looks like about 50% could be accurate.

I agree, and had a similar idea before.

@TimeKnight

It seems 3 might be the maximum for each zone, might be less if the zone was squeezed. Around half of total dead-end will be Guardian

The max 3 per zone still hold true, but I think there are other way to look at Guardian room, not the total amount, but the location.

Just like how there is a specific length to where the gate (7) and dragon room (6, unless squeezed) should be, the same might be applied to Guardian room.

Them showing up just 1-2 rooms from the main path would be too easy, so it was set to only appear at dead ends that’s 3-5 rooms away from the main path. With maze generating algorithm, 6 should be dragon room or merchant room instead, and it won’t go over 6, as they already fix the endless corridor issue.

Still, if 3 Guardian rooms was already spawn, then more won’t appear. If you see a dead end that’s eligible to be a Guardian room but didn’t, it’s likely you will find max 3 Guardian rooms in that zone.

Last week, less guardian rooms show up than it should, but everything seems to fit the pattern this week, and it makes sense why it would work this way from now on. With this knowledge in mind, you can save some torches by avoiding where the guardian rooms won’t appear.

For me, I like being wrong, as I can learn something from it. Being right will only confirm my believe. So please, if you have a way to disprove this, please share!

[TheIdleOne]

@TimeKnight

as they already fix the endless corridor issue.

funny enough, they still haven’t. go figure lol. Though it seems like it’s reserved for the top or the bottom of the map

[Reported] Underspire Endless Corridor Returns!

Platform, device version and operating system: Xbox latest version Screenshot or image: [image] What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened: Underspire dead end supposed to be no more than 6 off Main Path. This one went 11 (and no Guardian ) How often does this happen? When did it begin happening? I haven’t seen a dead end longer than 6 in a while. Steps to make it happen again I don’t actively seek dead ends (until Dia’s dead) and I’ve known the “Rule of 6” befor…

*technically it’s not endless, it’s just way longer than it needs to be.

[Darklord1]

Common - 1 Aranaea token
Epic - 2 Aranaea tokens

[titan89]

Legendary - 3 arcane shield traitstones

Epic - 2 torches

Ultra-Rare - 3 runic fire traitstones

Rare - 10 sapphires
Rare - 2 torches
Rare - 2 torches
Rare - 2 torches
Rare - 2 torches
Rare - 2 torches

Common - 5 sapphires
Common - 5 sapphires
Common - 1 torch
Common - 1 torch
Common - 20 shards

Fully eplored my map this week 14 Guardian rooms and 13 non-guardian dead ends so about 50% again. All Guardian rooms were 3-5 rooms away from the keystone path too so that theory seems to hold up.

[Dust_Angel]

So, for my noob account, since they gave a bunch of compensation torches, with area 1 fully explored, Area 2 partly explored, Area 3 fully explored treasure rooms went 2,2,3

Common
5 garnets
1 torch
1 torch

Rare
1 token of Anu

Ultra-Rare
2x token of Anu
1 Draconic Sentinel (however, it dropped from Giant Sentinel room, so - does it mean that any room can drop any sentinel?)

Epic
2x token of Yasmine

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For my main account (fully explored; 11 treasure rooms/11 empty dead ends; 3,2,1,1,3,1; treasure rooms also seem to be 3-5 away from the main path.)

Common
20 shards
1 torch
1 torch

Rare
1 token of Orpheus
1 token of Anu

Ultra-Rare
2 hex trinkets
2 frost trinkets
2 torches

Epic
2 torches

Legendary
3 torches
3 tokens of Orpheus