To all American people: who are you gonna vote for?

Can you please stop Quoting Snopes… that site is a known LEFT Leaning site.

I can post things from RIGHT leaning sites that show different results…

Whom are we to believe? Your Side? The other side? Or the FACTS that voter fraud does happen, Obama did say words that encouraged illegals, when 1 side picks apart someones words, they can expect the other side to do the same.

Facts don’t lean left or right. Stop pretending your opinion is equal to fact, it’s not. Just because you want really bad to be right doesn’t make your false reality everyone else’s actual reality. If you think Snopes is incorrect then please, by all means, provide a form of factual proof from another reliable source (that isn’t hearsay). Until then, please just stop. You’re just spreading ignorance. Be better than that. If not for yourself than for everyone else who already has to wade through enough noise and garbage to get to the truth.

Just because someone debunks your position doesn’t automatically make them biased, and it doesn’t make their case any weaker. Someone who both debunks your position and cites their sources so you can go see for yourself exactly why your position was wrong (as Snopes does) has presented a stronger case.

I repeat, you’re not entitled to your own facts.

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And when the investigation is concluded, we’ll see what happens. For now I guess…twiddle and wait? Also: "Under California election law, all voted mail ballots are signature-checked against the signature on the voters’ original registration prior to being cleared for processing and tabulation, providing a safeguard against someone other than the registered voter completing and submitting a ballot.”

You can’t look at an accusation, either assume a conclusion before one exists or ignore a conclusion you dislike, and continue to point at the accusation as if it’s relevant.

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a 12 year study to find 30 vote fraud cases lol.
based on convictions no doubt. voter fraud is difficult to detect and difficult to prove and we put very little effort into either.

Care to expand on how you know that “we put very little effort into either”? Because that’s a really easy statement to make but is meaningless without any evidence to back it up.

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Boy I thought things couldn’t get any crazier, but attention! they did.

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Well, I can’t think of any large scale voter fraud investigations. If you don’t seek you wont find.

A Florida news paper once cross referenced people that opted out of jury duty by swearing they were not citizens, then cross referenced it with voter registration. In one city they found 94 people registered to vote illegally that were also called up to jury duty. If you extrapolate that number across the State and against those not called up for jury duty, the number of illegal Florida voters could easily be over 10,000.

Or i am actually serious. I had to go to different libraries and different government buildings just to get registered. After a week of getting “pushed aside” i gave up. However i have heard stories far worst than mine.

im not saying that’s not true, I just find it difficult to believe. I guess your problem was difficulty proving residency and not an id problem.

I understand

The problem was first proving that a white man lived in what was perceived as black neighborhoods. The second part was (i do not know why they wanted it but it was almost impossible to prove) Information and evidence that i have lived/move at least 5 times in my lifetime. I had a state id, and not a driver’s licence. Then i was told that even if i could get all of that information together. Why was it so hard, and why are there so many restrictions. One area i went to was run by all females, and they the asked, “hi are you trying to sign up to vote?” i said yes, then this woman said to me, “sorry we are only registering females, come back in a month” Funny thing was it has been a month and the election is now over.

now I think you’re making stuff up. oh, and you spell color with a u.

depends… in american you dont spell color like colour… :slight_smile:

I spell certain words in the british method, and other words in the american method. I blame my mother being very british if you know what i mean and the educational system being poorly american. This might make people think i do not live in america. Voter fraud, and voter abuse is strong in swing states like ohio sometimes. Almost everyone who lived near me wanted trump. This is also the second election i have tried to vote in, the first was with obama’s second term.

Too soon?

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How did you get bill cosby’s face on donald trump’s head?

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Lol! Well, now it makes sense why he thought the Mexican government would pay for it.

Some people don’t realize how smart Trump is. I don’t think he will, but he absolutely could make Mexico pay for that wall.
We have laws for civil forfeiture for money earned through criminal activity, generally used against drug dealers. Working as an illegal alien is criminal activity.