This faction is weird. I kinda wish they were “either” rather than “independent” chances.
Scarab Knight is the tank but the Legendary does True damage and Beetle Blade instakills it.
The Queen Beetrix is so much similar to King Gobtruffle yet so much worse, it’s embarrassing. Why release new troops if you’re not going to, you know, release new troops?
It’s disappointing that the legendary was changed in a way that doesn’t address the fundamental issue with the delve. I suggested (somewhere) just making it do straight AOE damage, or making all options do damage in varying ways.
I hope someone finds and posts a consistent way to win with 10ish power potions, other than spamming skull generation and hoping to not die.
Anyway, Deep Hive looks fine. Probably in the easier 50% of faction teams, so I won’t complain about that one. (Well, the RNG design is very frustrating, but it’s a legitimate design decision. Ok, no more complaining from me.)
Yeah, Deep Hive is in the easier 50% of Factions, especially if you get a Queen loop going, but the fact Queen even exists really makes me mad.
IP2: makes Gobtruffle
Community: wow this is cool please make more viable faction troops
IP2: What if I gave you… The Exact Same Troop But Worse™?
I think the cleanse all is really undervalued, it could easily go on any gobtruffle or loop team and without stunning it, you are screwed.
Without obsidius or a good EoE team, it will definitely be an annoying defense troop. I see the whole package as a sidegrade, this troop is more universal and even though the spell is overall worse, it’s harder to stop.
I definitely agree that the Cleanse All is really powerful, especially now that it’s in new colors (Orpheus is Red/Yellow/Purple).
I’m just in the mindset of the faction clear right now, where the cleanse is rarely relevant (Insects? With no status effects?)
Can I assume that once the Invasions become a weekend event, in the future they will cease to be a guild event and become an individual event like the Bounty?
Nope. If you read further down the thread, she confirms that it will still be guild-wide.
I just saw. Thanks for the confirmation.
I just got a flea behind my ear here. If Invasion becomes a weekend event (like the Bounty), but remains a guild event, on the weekends that the Invasion comes, will we have two overlapping guild events? (in this case, the weekly event that is already happening and the added Invasion event over the weekend).
Gems of War becoming more and more hardcore.
Here’s my take on the future Deep Hive troops.
Beetle Blade
Protect the Hive
Deal [Magic + 5] damage to an Enemy. If there is 13 or more Brown Gems, deal triple damage.
Moth Mage
Metamorphosis
Deal [(Magic / 2) + 1] damage to all Enemies. There are independent 25% chances, boosted by Brown Gems, to gain an extra turn and half my mana back. [0.01]
Queen Beetrix
Hornet’s Nest
Create 9 Green and 9 Brown Gems, then deal [(Magic x 2) + 6] true scatter damage. There are independent 40% chances, to gain an extra turn and half my mana back.
Scarab Knight
Scarab Shield
Gain Barrier and [Magic + 1] Armor. There are independent 25% chances, boosted by Brown Gems, to gain an extra turn and half my mana back. [3:1]
In short, Beetle Blade and Moth Mage (rare and ultra rare) may come to be used in any event that requires specific troops where they fit. They are not good troops, but they are not completely disposable.
On the other hand, Queen Beetrix and Scarab Knight (legendary and epic) are terribly bad.
Looking at these four troops I see a complete waste of troops in the factions. In my opinion, we should have 4 troops that complete each other, where their skills benefit each other. However, not only are they not helping each other, they are not useful on other teams.
I would like to understand the logic in the creation of troops so weak compared to the troops created 2 or 3 years ago, much more efficient.
The only thing sadder than everything I said above, is to think that the troops of the Lyzzara team are even worse than these …
And where does @Sirrian look?..
What? She cleanses all allies, while Purification from Life talent tree cleanses only the hero.
It is true. But between her and Diviner, which is a ULTRA RARE TROOP that generates mana (with 3 side effect options, which gives magic to all allies something I love) I would prefer Diviner, even if the chance to clean the allies’ negative effects have a 1/3 chance to activate.
Apothecari is an ULTRA RARE TROOP great for generating mana and clearing the negative effects of all allies.
The Devoted is another ULTRA RARE TROOP that removes negative effects from allies, in addition to creating gems of the chosen color and granting armor to allies.
I honestly believe that she could have a more useful and original trait than this, not that it would change your extremely risky skill to use, with more chances of a disastrous effect for the team than a beneficial effect.
Needless to say if we compare it to Divinia, which also removes negative effects from your teams on your skill (leaving traits for other features).
Not useless.
If one has a team with Beetrix and Gobtruffle, you can put Beetrix in the back on blue or green GW days as support and have a reliable cleanse to stop Gobtruffle being frozen and unable to loop. Apothecary can’t do that without consuming and thereby blocking Gobtruffle’s mana colors, and Voice of Orpheus isn’t in the same colors so can’t be used for GW days - plus VoO is much harder to get than Beetrix.
Yes, Gobtruffle is strictly speaking better. I’m dubious that I would ever pick Beetrix to use as a looping troop with that RNG factor. But anyone saying they’re worthless just isn’t thinking hard enough yet.
I also still think the faction’s theme is a load of Censored Words (I led with something like that), and factions have been going down hill for longer than I care to remember, but my point stands.
I have to fully agree with you.
Looks like it, in both appeal and gem sink value.
Salty said somewhere (perhaps someone else can find the quote) that they would remain guild-based events.
Here: Changes to Invasion! - #8 by Saltypatra (it was already quoted).
I understood. It sounds like a Bounty Event (from Friday to Sunday), with less rewards and fewer battles, but still with the guild’s teamwork.
However, another event will take the place of the Invasion, continuing to be four weekly guild events per month. In this case, in one of the weeks, when the Invasion comes over the weekend, we will have two guild events active at the same time, the weekly and the Invasion.
I see Gems getting more and more hardcore.
As I like challenges, I am not opposed. May new activities coming soon to entertain us.
I can already say that Lyzzara is the troop I hate the most in Gems … In fact, I prefer some ultra rare troops than she …
Faction troops aside, we’ve been kind of on a roll again with weekly troop releases, and that looks to continue with P4-NTH4, a solid troop for scaling content that new players in particular will really find useful (a la Kryshound).
Mecha Rat won’t see use outside of bounties, but it is one of the few bounty troops that can summon, so it may be a viable option one weekend a month?
