Hey Devs, Here is an idea that will make you more money!

I think i found the solution:

Keep the current game as it is, but add like a DLC version made entirely for teenage boys:
make troops be waifus, busty grills, or whatever they want :slight_smile:
add weird noises for attacks, change all weapons to dual wielding swords (cause thats cool)
and maybe even add a different theme song

Yes, female are under represented in this game, and it’d be nice to have more female characters. NO ONE is saying otherwise.

That’s not AT ALL what you asked for, though. Could you please stop addressing this blatant strawman? :pensive:

You asked for more hot females for you to check out. And yes, you tried to disguise that as not sexually charged at all, but no one will take you seriously, on that, even if you repeat it ad lib.

Also, the fact that superhero movies are currently popular has what to do with this game, again?

Also, again, you somehow decided that most people who play GoW must be male (now you’ve updgraded to an entirely made-up “stat” of 80% ROFL), but this is straight out of your imagination. Actual stats on video game consumers in general were pointed out to you in this thread, and they overwhelmingly show that there are almost as many female gamers as there are males. Granted, we don’t know for GoW specifically, but it’s not like either the match-three market OR the TCG market were dominated by men, quite the opposite, actually, and Gems of War is a match-three/TCG hybrid. What makes you think that “80%” of people interested in this premise must have testosterone levels through the roof? I think it’s a safe bet that you’re extremely wrong in this total assumption, dude.

Cheers,
LM

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Perhaps I could have lampooned the OP a bit more, but the Amazonian part seemed pretty self-lampooning to me… and the tease of @Archenassa was only that - she’s made it clear in many places on this forum that she is forceful in her views… a bit of Arch-baiting is just a little extra GoW fun (more fun than being greened to death in the game)… especially as I now have the new crimson weapon and she doesn’t :stuck_out_tongue:

@LegendMaker you are analysing that all far too much. I did mean to make fun of both sides of the debate - this is after all supposed to be a fun place. Sorry if that wasn’t clear, but let’s not stress over it all here (and no I am not belittling the importance of the gender debate, far from it, before someone analyses me for that - I just don’t fancy much more of the debate here). Lighten up guys, please…

It’s a shame this thread has such a cross-over of (understandably) rage-inducing ideas and actually quite sensible ones…

I would not be too sure about that, mobile, casual and yes, match-3 games have an increasing middle aged women player base. The comic art style of this game and the war theme might not be tailored towards them the same way that other games in the genre are, but 80% male in a match 3? That is a bet you may not want to put money on.

NSFW nude patch for the game? Celestasia in a thong? shudder

While it is true that it’s an educated guesstimate, it is an education guesstimate based on my experience in my professional field.

I am well aware of the percentage of female gamers to male gamers in industry all together. However, this game is going to have larger male base than female for a number of reason.

Although, I don’t have access to demographics of the app itself, alexia tells me that this website is “greatly over-represented by male visitors” just as one example. So I know that at least the mass majority of the website traffic is male.

I would give my guess plus or minus 15 percent, meaning the the players are between 65 and 95 percent male on the game. Being at 90 percent wouldn’t even surprise me.

That’s a cool story, bro. You go ahead and believe that “educated guesstimate” (LOL), since there’s obviously no stopping you; not with reasoning, anyway. :astonished:

I’ve been a professional in video game and online community support myself for a decade now, and everything I know about the gaming industry disproves your self-defeating assumption.

That’s Alexa*, by the way, and the gender thing in default Alexa stats is entirely unreliable, as the site itself tells you if you care to hover your mouse cursor over it (“Confidence: Low”). The fact of the matter is that Alexa or similar sites have no way of knowing the gender of site visitors, let alone with any consistency. Google and more invasive web-crawlers can tell based on people who log in from social media and have a public profile including their gender, but even that’s a bit of a stretch, not to mention highly questionable and borderline legal wise. Alexa simply cannot.

Edit: In any case, fighting me to try and prove that the target of GoW is mostly male doesn’t make your request for more T&A look any less sexist. It’s the exact opposite. Even if this game was mostly played by men, this would by no means automatically imply that all we want to see sexy damsels in distress when we play it. There comes an age, for many male players, where we actually don’t necessarily like to mix our entertainment with sexually evocative images. It really is mostly something relevant to male teenagers. And regardless, even if your unfounded hunch were true, and 90% of players of this match-three/trading-card-game actually happened to be horny men, it wouldn’t automatically mean that the developers should turn their casual, mainstream, convivial game into a festival of cleavage.

Good day, Sir.

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Well maybe the Devs will be kind of enough to give us the actual data and we’ll see if am right or not.

My whole addition to this argument is that there are ALREADY a bunch of games out there with T&A galore. Like montowers, etc. This game doesnt need it, and it wouldnt fit in the art style anyway.

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@melkathi For you, we’ll make it Goblin King in a thong…

Mmh… sexy.

Ignoring the war of sex, I like the idea of alternate endgame armor options. I’d even go a step further and say that alternate troop costumes would be pretty sweet, I’d be more than willing to spend diamonds on that.

You know, add some variety by changing up troop designs slightly, clothing changes, color swaps, minor facial feature alternates, etc.

I don’t recommend this game to my friends because there are already too many ridiculously dressed women. I’d love for the armor of the hero not to be so objectifying. If the art changed to treat women like worriors instead of eye candy, I’d spend a lot more money on this game.

I appreciate that this game is tasteful, relatively speaking, in its depictions of women. There is cleavage in nearly every female card, and I don’t like seeing that. Nevertheless, it is a fact of modern society that women are to be portrayed in an objectifying light so I tolerate it. If this game had a library for images of sexy women, I would delete the app. I do not play the game for the purpose of looking at women, and I don’t like to support people who objectify women. Any images created to intentionally stimulate sexual desires lead a viewer to the porn industry, and that industry is just awful.

As for beauty, it certainly is in the eye of the beholder (or the eye of the beer holder, if you’re in Germany). I would assume that a picture of awe-inspiring scenery would be regarded as universally beautiful. I wouldn’t assume that a picture of a half-naked woman would be regarded in the same way. I do like images of attractive women, as a man, but they are poisonous so I try to steer clear from them. Smutty images are not wholesome and fulfilling and that’s why they can make money. If they were fulfilling people wouldn’t feel the need to consume them constantly.

As for your demographic research, my wife and I both play, we are both 29 years old. Cheers to @Archenassa, and no disrespect meant towards the OP.

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This game is practically puritan compared to 90% of other f2p games in any app store. I’m cranky surprised that anyone would not recommend this game based on they idea that it objectified women.

Men in fantasy art are the same as women. They have big muscles and don’t wear shirts, they wear skin tight clothes and have packages in the groin the area. As much as Hollywood, the comic industry and fantasy book art covers give society an unrealistic view of women, they do the same thing for men. Most of us don’t have big muscles and six pack abs.

I think these pictures illustrate the point.

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you know @psychetruth , I gotta hand it to you. You’ve done an excellent job of keeping your temper and even being humorous while being attacked from all sides. My hats off to you.

I think I was remiss in not using more conservative wording in my original post. I was not asking the devs to create a bunch of hyper-sexual “T&A” images or nude images. It was my original intention to keep it classy and tasteful.

And I was simply pointing out the fact, that I think some beautiful artwork featuring women (which really is under-represented in this game) could improve the game.

Artists and creators are sort of put into a conundrum when it comes to creating media involving the human form.

On one hand to your want the images to be beautiful but then some might think them too sexy.

On another hand, you want your images to be iconic and represent the ideal of a man or woman, but then will people think it’s too sexy?

On another hand, you want your images to be attractive, but what people commonly think of as attractive, they also find sexy.

Another point of note is that no one seems to be offended by demonic images, violent images, grotesque images, horrific images which are clearly in the game but I mention giving a warrior woman voluptuous curves and some people are freaking out as if I suggested they create Japanese tentacle porn or something extremely degrading.

This is factually the most brutal and violent match 4 game that I can think.

Lets get some dicks on those cards! Just straight up dicks. Big ones.

The real problem is now solved.

You are all welcome.

Why are people still comparing random movie characters/comic heroes to normal people?
They are that cause they are that…

Conan is Conan, he HAS big muscles, and i for one loved Arnold in that role… How could a slave, constant worker (dont hate me, i havent seen Conan in ages) who wields a HUGE sword be “normal-looking”? I will tell you, NO POSSIBLE WAY.

As for other pics, i mean they are all warriors of sorts, dunno why would you even expect them to be like us… They fight, we sit, they train everyday, most exercise i get is from walking to college and back…

I think you’re proving his point that images of men are also overly incorrectly giving the wrong body image, the same as images of women.