It’s crazy to me that you absolutely missed the mark on what players liked about GWs.
Sure, the keep and different paths is cool and all, but seeing no progress of your players or the other guild except for scores is absolutely lacking.
There’s no inner guild competition anymore unless we screenshot/report our own progress.
Setting it up so we have to fight with kingdoms against colors is awful as well.
You can’t create good teams against specific defenses because there’s barely an option. Some kingdoms will make this worse than others, and broken spire is one of the bad ones.
We want our skills tested and not our patience and ability to suffer through terrible battles we had barely any chance of winning to begin with. Nothing to do with skill but with luck.
It feels like you asked us about what we liked and then disregarded most of it.
After completing my first set of battles today I started looking for where the results for my guild members could be found and was astonished to find out the answer was nowhere. These first three things not being included from day one is just mind-boggling to me. Hopefully they can add some secondary windows to see the details very soon.
Just resharing this, as I have seen a lot comments requesting a way to view what is happening in your Guild, and this is feedback that has already been shared. In various formats, from seeing your Guild members scores, if they participated at all, if their defence won or lost.. etc
There are plans to add more to Guild Wars hopefully in 8.5 at the earliest, but the team have these as some of the next points to update in GW.
So I haven’t really hid my dislike of the new pvp system, and having just tried GW, my opinion really hasn’t changed. At least with the old GW system, you had a wide variety of troops to choose from, even if you were fighting against a wider variety of troops. The problem with this GW, is that you are fighting against an ever-expanding group of troops with literally the most restricted group of troops. That’s why kingom starts giving it’s bonus at 2+, because it’s the most restrictive, type is 2nd at needing 3 troops, and color needs all 4 troops.
Trying to do an entire GW with Broken Spire troops was an utter nightmare, especially when you have barely any choice as to who you want to fight if you are trying to get maximum points. I ended up fighting a Giant team tha that had an Elementalist and 2 Grimborn. So a Snap Freeze off the bat, and any 4 matches were 3 random freezes, all while I was trying to do whatever the heck I could with Broken Spire troops. I managed to win, but of course my score was crap. Then I got to the end where an opponent had an all dragon team. Thankfully, they didn’t have a Stellarix, but they did have a Diamantina that effortlessly slaughtered me. Trying to fight against high powered dragons when all you have is Broken Spire is just painful.
The only, and I do mean only good thing for me when it came to the new pvp system, was that at least you were fighting same against same. So the fact that the new GW couldn’t even include that was just another disappointment. Factor in that it’s still just a bunch of people spamming freeze, cheese, and instant kill, and I really don’t see what the point of the change was. It’s still going to be an ABSOLUTE nightmare for new players, but at least they can spam hit the gate, right?
Appreciate the openness and communication on the boards. But waiting for 8.5 for GW stats is very disappointing. This doesn’t have to satisfy all “data-junkies” (of which I am), but a simple board as with the weekly events doesn’t seem a heavy lift. Hoping this happens sooner rather than later.
When you finish a battle it should take you to the enemies keep AND deselect so that you have to make a conscious effort to repeat a battle and it doesn’t happen by accident.
The instructions had a lot of gaps that people had to figure out as they went, you may want to update them accordingly. Also ever since guild wars, the ? Screens are messed up. They either don’t have a back button or they just don’t load.
you should be able to see what other people’s defenses are and be able to easily test them or emulate them.
the guild leader at minimum should be able to kick people out of certain keeps or be able to place people into certain keeps (to help with organizing). Ideally sentinels can too or a warmaster privilege you can allocate as someone else said.
the gems of war chat has long been an issue and it is emphasized with guild wars coordination needed. You should be able to tag people and have more chat functionality. It’s a bare minimum expectation of a game like this and with how much you make off the player base , it’s really unacceptable it is still like this.
you also need to overhaul guild recruitment to make it easier to search for people, see people without guilds, etc. the current functionality is so broken and guild wars needs full guilds. Especially as GOW is in mature/declining stage of and guilds are having to consolidate down. If people can’t communicate properly they will just give up.
I fought gate guardians and the guardian thing where they entangle all enemies didn’t entangle me and it didn’t create entangle gems. Also the team I fought didn’t have anyone in the keep places I fought so I’m unclear still if this guardian benefit is for the player defense teams too or just the gate guardian.
why is the gate guardian so weak? I bet if people knew that they would have put more effort into spreading their players.
I couldn’t see anywhere in the guidance saying the bonus is based on the path with the lowest number on a kingdom (I.e the path with the lowest number of sets completed). Thats a pretty big oversight.
Why are all PvP monoliths affecting guild wars? That seems like an insane oversight that is not consistent with previous communications that it would be purely skill based and not monetized (monolith sigils are bought with gold marks, which you can buy each day).
The pathing through the Fortress and the obtainable 10 setbonus points, are good. That means Guilds have to aim for the setbonus, since just walking the path of least resistance with all 30 players should end up in “less points” overall.
Broken Spire Attack Team NOT having Wand of Stars, is good. That means not having Wand of Stars in Defense (because the PvP downgrade) is equalled out. Obviously the question remains if that is the same for future Attack Kingdoms, or maybe just a Broken Spire thing for the moment. I definitly would not allow Wand of Stars ever for a Attack team. Unless you nerf the imba weapon, and make it afterwards available for both Attack & Defense.
Stellarix defense downgrade in full thing as witnessed first hand. Not happy about that, especially if a future Attack Kingdom might have free use of Stellarix becasue" Attacker". Similar to the Wand of Stars, either nobody should be getting Stellarix then, or everyone should have free use of it.
Its not good that our Defense teams are NOT using Medals, but the Attacker does. Back in teh old GW days we often asked that you build in a option that we can nail the class skills and medals down into individual Defense teams, instead of using what currently was equipped in the moment someone attacked. We can go straight back to asking for this here, because Medals give a solid edge and can contribute much for a team. they should be there for the Defense. And since the Defense team(s) this time apparently save for each building if someone hops around during the setup-phase, a added Medal slot there would do the trick.
Not super happy with Immortals being used in GW. Sidenote here: I find it immensly frustrating that the “big feature Immortal” for PvP, still reset the PvP defense teams there and basically find not much use. While during GW, using an Immortal in a Defense team apparently saves the team in each building just fine. I mean, really? We are in PvP Season4? 5? And we have still the teams reseting there? Get it together. Ok, back to Immortals in PvP. While the Immortals have not their “kingdom double bonus” here, some of them are still very deadly cards. Making them in Defense a tough obstacle. Obviously the higher leveled the Immortal, the worse it gets. This has the foul taste of “Pay the Seasonpass to win” here. I guess the easy solution would be banning Immortals from GW, but then people who bought the seasonpass and want their level 30 Glaycia nuking stuff, will rage the same as people who have not bought past seasonpasses, and now witness how devestating specific Immortals are for GW. Guess for now we have to deal with this, but I assume the situation woill only get worse over time, when more and more Immortals might show up and the designs might here & there go into IMBA territory again. At least only one Immortal per defense is allowed and also only if the building would have one to offer for its restrictions. So for now, its limited. In two years, could then be the wild west with insane Immortal teams left and right. A situation worth watching.
Now to the real dealbreaker I have seen so far: WHERE is my old Guild scoring? Back in the days we could see how we did in comparision to the other guild(s) in our bracket. Which we partly have in the Attack screen for the current guild of the day. If that is not showing up listed anywhere when the day ends, that should return to see how the week is going.
Which brings us to the individual Guild and Player scoring. We could see Who in the Guild did What, and Who did sit afk the whole week. We could also see who scored normally and who might have made mistakes since the score would have been to low for 5/0 days as example. This was a very useful tool to look over your guild. And specificly for people and guilds who enjoyed GW and wanted to be as good as they could be there, it was necessary. We NEED that back.
Around the same area: Why are we not seeing how good our Defense is doing? Old GW we could see how the daily teams worked. While we have now a single team for all days in the one building, seeing how well it did [split into the different days to see which attacking guild maybe had a easier time breaking through] to maybe decide if the team is garbage and has to changed, is still something that we should have. Let me see how much the team failed. Let me talk with guildmembers to compare how their team did, and seek better solutions.
btw. how is it working with “missed GW days”? I know that for example today our Gate is sitting at 26 fights, so with 29 members, three did not fight. Is it working like old GW and they can still do those fights tomorrow, or Sunday? Or does the new system mean that every day/fight missed, is lost as soon as the reset kicks in? Because if the latter, maybe we should build in the same safety net we had in old GW, and allow people to pick up the fights during GW at a “later day”, in case some unforseen RL struggles would have made playing a specific day impoosible.
I don’t know if some “scoring stuff” might show up in a extra window after the first day is over, or after the week ends and we can check stats there. If that is the case, hooray. If not my above points stand: Give us our detailed information back so people/guilds can try to improve for GW. Especially if the later bracket fights for Guilds should return.
Rather happy with the new guild wars. Something others mentioned too: moving around in the keep is confusing. I also would like to be able to see which members participated.
WTF! I went to our guild wars result and I got a message that my guild tied 0-0 with a guild we did not fight. In reality, we beat Templo de Vampiros by about 20000 points. I did not get the trophy either. Apparently, I checked too soon, while in-game. A guildmate got the correct notification and trophy a few minutes later.
Changing the format (ie putting in a map) really didn’t make Guild Wars any better. The old format was fine. The only thing I felt needed to be fixed what that the restrictions applied for each day of the Wars should be the same for both sides - as in Green day means both sides are restricted to green. That would have evened the playing field and made it fair. This new Wars is unappealing. I’ll do them because of guild requirements, and I’ll do my best as always. I will, however, consider them a waste of time. Thanks for trying, but regular PVP is infinitely more fair and more fun.
I’m somewhat confused by this message of unknown origin in our Guild chat:
Is that some new feature or some new bug? The only one writing in yellow would be me, and I’m pretty sure I haven’t been sleepwalking. Besides, my name doesn’t get censored.
I had that happen yesterday, looks totally like a hack, but I suppose it’s an attempt to let everybody know that there are Guilds Wars running in as many ways possible.
I don’t know if it’s related, but I couldn’t access the Guild Activity tab after that.
Chicos apreten sus cinturones por que esto va a see un largo camino, las guerras tiene buena intencion pero como siempre los devs no estan aptos … 1 año y medio para esto ? Recuerden cuando sacaron el jcj actual lo que hicieron y lo que han hecho , ellos se piensan que los jugadores no nos dimos cuenta que el reseteo de los VP es para mantener un % de jugadores activos y decirnos que hay mucha gente jugando pvp TE OBLIGAN A HACER 180MIL VP … las guerras terminaran siemdo PTW🙈 que pena.
