An idea would be to auto opt out to start. (assuming a reset of GW happens)
Then once the guild opts in, they stay in until such time that there’s no defense set for that guild in a Guild War. This triggers an automatic opt out again where the Guild Leader(s) will have to manually opt in if they want to participate in the future.
This might solve the situation of someone starting to play GW and then leaving the game and have their one person Guild stuck on Opt In. Once they don’t set a defense team, then the AI can assume they as a guild are not participating and remove them from future GWs.
While I know this would be rough for a while, I would honestly love this in the long-term. Total trophies earned was never a good benchmark for guild wars rank and I think it’s going to take an unreasonable amount of time (possibly even years, by some of the calculations) to unpack that and get to the correct equilibrium.
If you can get this past the higher ups, I’d be all for just starting over and putting everyone at the same level and then allowing guilds to rise/fall naturally. I know it’ll be some initial pain but if done right, I think it would be really beneficial in the long run.
Not this GWs but the one last month.
My guild didn’t set defences, because. It’s 2 days notice.
And the notice is like sending out postcards in a digital world .
No one realised it was a GWs week.
Your suggestion would only work, if we get a massive pop up every day, starting a week before GWs defences can be set.
My guild loves GWs, we just need more notice.
Put in better places. So we all see it.
Ps I will also add, I used to get all my information of upcoming events from Taransworld.
Since this has been gone, I’m in the dark, which means my guild is in the dark.
And no I’m not going on random discords.
Also the monthly event schedule on here, gets lost very very fast.
Okay, so I dug this up because…well, I just like keeping a record of data. And with all the chaos of the Guild War updates, the devs forgot 2 very important aspects.
Does everyone remember this? Yeah, those books aren’t used anymore, but it might bring back nightmares.
We need to know how our defenses did to see if they’re effective. The white number that you see at the bottom of these old images should be displayed to the entire guild. (Maybe on the “revised” guild leaderboard idk).
I understand that under both the current system and the proposed reset it will take time to sort guilds properly.
I think the reset is a bad idea because it means we’re not doing some third thing that actually improves the situation immediately. I honestly don’t think most guilds have the patience to wait for X more cycles.
One idea would be a one-time elo adjustment based on points earned in the last war. My guild always scores around 45k, and we’re regularly matched against people who score 15k. We should at least be playing guilds with 100% GW participation, scoring 30k+. Point totals are very reflective of how many people are participating in the mode, not player skill, at the moment.
Edit: And the other problem is that the mode just lacks everything that made people like old GWs, like internal guild ranking and defense stats. Fixing that will make the top guilds more interested in competing, and improve the “bracket 1” experience. Then you can quarantine them off, eg ranks 1-10 can only compete with each other.
is this a joke? You want to change guild war based on the opinion of forum visitors? Are you sure that’s representative? Seriously? Since you sent an email to get feedback (sadly the link is unclickable and unselectable), why don’t you at least do the same among active guild leaders? Send a letter to the leader of active guilds and let them decide their guild and the leader will express either his opinion or the opinion of the entire guild.
As mentioned, purely asking for feedback and creating a discussion.
Also, asking for feedback on the community forum, is exactly where feedback is discussed.
There are also more active people on the forum, than the amount of people who took part in the survey, or more active people who have reach to talk to their own Guilds, than the reach the survey has.
moskow never sleep have “fighted” with a Germs of War at a sunday. Our opponents haven’t set any defence at all and obtail a 500+ points for a whole guild, so it will take some time to collect data and set a leaderboards. As for me the solution could be just wait till a couple of gw’s occures and then divide a leaderbord for a 2 leagues - above 250 first places and below. Like diamond and ruby. And every war ten guilds rotates. If we will reset a leaderboard now we will lose the last 4 gw (almost half of a year results) and would have to wait for another year to make the places reasonable again.
For axample when we’ll reset results guild rated as 1 and rated fo 2 for now will fight. One guild will win and have a first plase, the next will drop to the bottom and then there,ll be a couple of months tomake a correct rating. So my point is leave the current rating be. We’ll have to wait for a half-a-year anyway
This is great and I hope there’s more polls/communication like this in the future! Not that devs should do things based solely on forum opinions, but a great place to spark conversation, as you said.
I voted to leave it as it is but I don’t quite want that.
I think you should quadruple elo gained/lost for 2-3 GW. Then triple it for 2-3 GW. Then double it for 2-3 GW. Any system will need time to sort itself out. This would speed up that process. (and is long enough that a single bad event isn’t the end of the world)
Finally, to quicker sort out new but serious about GW guilds, make the matching algorithm target a higher bracket if you repeatedly win all of your GW matches. Obviously with an exception for the top bracket.
I think it will sort itself out, especially as the scoring has been fixed.
Most of the complaints have been about getting hammered by a much higher ranked, or cruising vs a much lower ranked. That’s not a ranking problem. It’s a matching problem.
If there really is a need to sort all guilds, setting everyone to the same score would probably put us further away than we are now.
Just run a 1-off ‘GW Ranking’ next GW event.
4 different maps on the different days.
Devs set all defences for each day. Ranging from easy day to OP Sunday.
Everyone fights the same (dev) guild. Preferably get a reasonable but not too easy attack restriction.
Rank the guilds and calculate ELO by their 4 day total.
First i would make guild wars rewards be for battles fought rather than battles won. This would improve participation, especially for newer players, who can then fight the gate 5 times and get some great rewards.
I really like the idea previously mentioned of having different leagues, diamond, ruby etc, with of course the ability to move between these depending on performance.
For initial placement you could amalgamate all points scored so far in the new guild wars. The data gathered so far is at least the best indicator we have of participation, though of course not perfect. In any elo system it takes a while to settle, but is quicker with seed data, which guild wars points so far would provide.
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it’s been mentioned a fair bit, for different reasons