10% of my guild, 3 members that had been with us for a very long time, have completely quit the game due to Guild Wars. This week I lost my Paragon on the 2nd day. So not only was he frustrated enough to quit, now the entire guild has a lower chance to move up to bracket 1, and they have every right to be frustrated as well.
We lost one of our higher up members for a more casual guild. Usually we have about 3 or 4 people who donāt even play guild wars. While we currently have no requirements to do so, I can kind of see some of the people who do play getting towards the upset side.
I look forward to meeting The Elders in brutal combat once you guys are at full strengthš
Edit: we are actually in bracket 7 this week lol i saw our ranking of 64 and thought it was bracket 6ā¦ Hopefully by the time we are in the same bracket you will be full strengthš but thenā¦ PREPARE TO BE ASTRONOMICALLY TROUNCED LOL!
Match Masters -rank #3 - currently bracket 1 - has (so far) lost two good high level players because of Guild Wars - and we have a far more relaxed attitude towards the wars than some other guilds in our bracket. Both have completely left the game.
Yeah its getting pretty tense here in Match Masters, others rumblingā¦ Iād like to see some improvement myself but I think thereās some overreacting happening too.
We lost one member who left the game altogether. Even after taking a hard line stance that guild wars is not required or even expected of our members, most of our members are still making a concerted effort (including myself, even after I flat out said I wouldnāt be using full color teams after the first week because its simply not a sustainable thing for me long term). Nobody really wants to let their guild down and I hope this doesnāt lead to more burnout long term.
The guild for my low level account has taken to requiring guild wars battles. At first, the requirement was going to be every day for a guild with requirements of otherwise ādonate trophies, gold, and seals at least one time per week, amounts donāt matterā. I pointed out just how unsustainable this would be so thankfully, this has been relaxed to āfight in guild wars once per weekā, even after I pointed out the futility of fighting in guild wars period for a guild ranked in the 200s-300s (its more of a āat least put in an effortā sort of thing). I may have to drop this account entirely, though, as even this is not sustainable given the extra time I have to put in.
Like I said in all of the preview threads, its going to be divisive. Its another thing that peopleās priorities can be split on, and when these people have already formed collectives based on their priorities it was pretty obvious this was going to happen. Iām actually surprised neither of my guilds were even harder hit by this (so far), but its already kind of wearing on me and we are only a few weeks in.
There is no āfixā that is going to give guild wars mass appeal and the main problem in my book was locking exclusive rewards behind it. My main hope at this point is that move past guild wars and onto crafting, which will hopefully provide options that makes guild wars truly optional. It will still be divisive among some guilds (though I imagine all that will be worked out by then) but it will be less stress and burnout inducing for players that just donāt want to be ācompetitiveā.
Makes sense that GW will lead to new types of guilds. Gold, trophies, seals and GW will create a lot of different combinations for reqs.
Thankfully, we havenāt lost anyone at Stratagem (previously known as Vn4ever) since we donāt have any performance reqs. Those that arenāt that into it can choose between a bunch of builds depending on what cards and traits you have. As long as you try, itās all good!
Players who love guild wars donāt understand players who donāt. As I feared, GW is not just wars between guilds but has created friction within guilds.
I still do it for my guild, but I will not invest extra time into creating/adjusting teams color based for maximum points. This process wastes entirely too much of my time. I like to use the premade teams I already have that reduce the amount of chance the opposite team has of beating me.
I hope this mode is not FORCED even more upon me, I will likely quit my guild, either create my own or hopefully find another guild that will not participate in this.
I can understand those who probably like doing this challenge, and I donāt want to stop their fun with it. However locking troops and the best free stuff behind modes that players might dislike, is what will cause many to quit.
I will probably continue to play for fun, ignoring PvP and Guild Wars. The meta is just so toxic, those modes do not offer enough randomness with teams. Its the same thing again and again. Explore at least offers some randomness between troops and if you want a challenge, you can increase the difficulty.
We have lost a couple and I canāt say in the long run it will be good for me as well. It took a very low stress game that had no real detriment for failure and made failure not only hurt you but your entire guild. It completely changed the tone of the game, and I do not think that was a good thing
I agree with you. I donāt like the pressure of using monocolor teams to get max points. I have a few regular PVP teams, and those Iāll use in GW and I try to have bare minimum 2 color of the day troops in my team to at least have a decent contribution to my guild, but I cannot be bothered to use a team where all troops share one color, especially when defense teams arenāt incentivized to change.
To the point of the thread, I believe my guild has lost at least three members, one was our paragonā¦
Just curious. Are the drama mainly because of the daily pressure to participate? Or because there are people who are not participating/on time for the daily GW?