Evil Dragons

Strong opposite opinion here. Troops like Vizinium that win the battle as soon as they get their spell out should never benefit from an easy to slot in 50% mana start. Raise the base cost at the very least to 50 mana, then it’s something that might be worth considering.

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People would troll others by setting 4 Vizinium on their teams in :purple_circle:, Daemon, and Undead PvP restrictions. (along with other horrible team compositions). Vizinium is a sensitive issue imo. That trait that gives him a 15% chance to revive with full mana can make PvP pretty toxic because people could just set them on teams, knowing that if he isn’t stunned, it’s like there’s a 15% chance that you would lose.

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Then remove the 2nd and 3rd trait. There’s many alternatives for them anyway …

Or even better. Lets stop worrying about troop changes.

In the last thousand requests. They may have done 2 or 3 changes. From forum requests.

Just becsuse everyone assuming each dragon set would be stronger. Thats a player problem. No dev said that. And tbh. Its better that nothing is better than chrys.

We know the saying about assuming things. And the devs set things up months in advsnce.

So ino your smart Hayabusa. So you know there not changing jack. So why bother.

Sometimes they do react, you never know

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And Chrysantherax (Elemental / Dragon with 34 mana cast, option to start with 50 % mana, mega powerful casts) is absolutely fine, right?

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It’s ok. Apparently, The Gray King doesn’t exist either. Still waiting for the pitchforks for that one. Silence and Mana Drain! ban it from the game!

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2 wrongs. Dont make a right tho.

Nothing should ever bd as strong as chrys. Ever again.

Or 80 percent of mythics need buffs to be playable.

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The good thing with these dragons sets is that you can just skip whichever you want to and go all in on the flower dragons, may take a while to get it but in the end of the day totally worth it to just stick with the set, especially if u have just played for a year or two. RNG may screw you over but at least an easier mission than complete all 3 sets and you ultimately also will get one of the best troops in the game, if not the best.

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Since these got released. Iv smashed pvp. Bought all dragonite possible. So i van get. Brown floral. When in forge. I cant even pop a daemon egg yet. Till i have chrys.
But ive 4200 drsgonite. Bring on the release in march. :money_mouth_face::zany_face:

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Chrys might hit harder, but Stella still is the best troop in the game and a much bigger game changer overall. In doubt get 2x Stella and skip the rest and GoW is a whole new world.

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If your point is that Chrysantherax might be balanced better by removing the Elemental tag then I’m very inclined to agree. I’d possibly even replace Elemental with Boss, to make it less of an auto-pick when setting up Guild Wars defenses. This is about further boosting Vizinium though, which feels very unnecessary.

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True.

My point is that Vizinium should be the final dragon, not Pandemonia.

Also, all final dragons should be Boos / Dragon like Diamantina.

And Chrysantherix should be replaced in PvP / GW like Stellarix.

Not mentioning, that 90% of mythics must have proper buffs and rebuild to reflect current game powers.

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Pandemonia was meant to be the strongest dragon out of the evil dragons. Someone clearly underestimated the silent status effect while overestimating the terror one. I wish a bit more time had gone into crafting their spells and traits; it feels like this was slapped together in five minutes.

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I wish they would remove their second trait because any buff or change to their spell(s) would make people just set 4 of them on their team to troll others with their 15% chance to revive with full mana on death. Every dragonite dragon should also be classified as Dragon/Boss because people just put Chrysantherax on their team in The Portal and Palace, and it leads to some unbalanced match-ups.

Pandemonia is not worth the dragonite cost and frustration–plain and simple. It’s barely even worth 600 dragonite as a “normal” Evil dragon, let alone the cost of needing all 6 evil dragons and the 3 weapons…

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Yea but you cant use cost.

Its 500 gems for an imperial deed in shop

Or free 2nd dragon underspire.

So cost is all over the place in this game.

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As it stands I can’t see any changes at all arriving… and not even trying to be a negative nancy here darkbone and itsgettingquickold

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Since all the dragons curse, they should’ve made the cost 300 cursed runes and 300 Dragonite instead.

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Prices are all over this game, sure. But we can make sense of it. Dragonite is a precious resource, which can be gotten quicker through various ways:

•30 dragonite from the guild weekly event and 50 dragonite (or 100 dragonite if you use a lantern) from Underspire.

•35 gold marks for 30 dragonite in the PvP shop

•60 dragonite for 300 gems in the dungeon offer

•Retreating from explore 12 during gnome-a-palooza till you find a dragonite gnome (normally 1-3 every 15 minutes).

So, here comes the power of math…Credit to @CLARE and others, but the average probability of getting all 6 dragons from a given dragon egg set is 14.7 eggs. (I will round to “15” just for the sake of more “even” numbers).

The Watcher’s Cleaver and Flail of suffering are 600 dragonite each, and the Sinister Reaper is 1200 dragonite, along with Pandemonia needing another 1200 dragonite.

(15×600)+600+600+1200+1200=12,600 dragonite on average to get all the components and the final dragon, Pandemonium.

How much does this actually cost?

Gem Cost: (12,600÷60)×300=63,000 gems (if you bought the dungeon offer once everyday)

Gold Mark Cost: (12,600÷30)×35=14,700 gold marks (you can buy 30 dragonite 3 times a day)

This is why it takes people so long to collect enough dragonite to craft the “Final” dragons–dragonite is time gated and expensive (which is why we use vault weekends to speed this up). Pandemonia does not justify those numbers, and it’s just a very expensive trophy. Cheers.:beer_mug:

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Stellerix still the best dragon

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