Campaign Begins: Trident of Dago'Nath

[TheIdleOne]

@Jeto

Imagine the Campaign lore wrote something like "Dago’Nath arose from the great depths and came crashing down on the small coastal town… where he dealt 37 damage to 4 random villagers:

Sold.

[Kezef]

@TheIdleOne

8x might be a lot for boost ratio (I mean: 4 Submerge Gems/2 Turns = 32 damage 4 times?)

How many troops actually have worthwhile boost ratios?

If you want the high-base rarity troops to mean something, they ought to have traits and boost ratios to supply some oomph. Yes, 8x boost would be pretty extreme, especially if combined with creating two of the given gem type per turn, but it would also make the troop worth using and something to be a little more alarmed by when it pops up on the opposite team.

We see far too many lame mythics and lame legendaries these days. They’re good for satisfying the “counter” for kingdom power level progression if you haven’t already checked that box, but we still get far too many useless troops and the paradigms haven’t changed a whole heck of a lot in a while.

[NerdieBirdie]

@Jeto

Imagine the Campaign lore wrote something like "Dago’Nath arose from the great depths and came crashing down on the small coastal town… where he dealt 37 damage to 4 random villagers:

The villagers were going to fight back, but instead froze in place, for Dago’Nath had gained an extra turn.

[Jeto]

Villagers were thrown about, as though.. jumbled..

ANYWAYS, as much as I love THIS… and now want fanart
I get too invested in RP and must return to the mines aka.. everything else I do and not the game Minecraft.

[TheIdleOne]

@Jeto

I get too invested in RP and must return to the mines aka.. everything else I do

Oh you mean you weren’t suffering with us in the Underspire dead ends avoiding bosses? (making light of a serious player frustration for many people including me.)

[Darkborne]

“Shiver me timbers laddies. There be a monster comin’ from the depths an’ he be as fearsome as ol’ Willy of the seven seas. An’ when the bottles are empty an’ our bellies full, we be sailin’ for the stars, making a wee wicked time on the ol’ starboard. A fine time for high tide out on ya open sea there be.”

As fun as talking like a pirate would be for lore, I think I lost a few brain cells on that one.

[mgmt]

Oh I’m well aware of the ludonarrative divide between lore and game mechanics. But when a mechanic so hilariously contradicts the lore, it kind of renders the lore absurd.

Zuul’goth and Ctharrasque:
Impervious titans who utterly obliterate any foe with the misfortune to land within their sights. Those lucky enough to be overlooked are still left struggling in the wake of burning, chaotic ruin they still may not survive.

Dago’nath:
Splashes a few passersby annoyingly, maybe denting their armor a bit. The parrot, jackelope, and chicken man that his laughable onslaught barely managed to inconvenience, team up to silence any further outbursts and lay down a beating until he gets randomly chewed up and swallowed by a gerbil.

[mgmt]

Incidentally, you can’t even type this campaign mythic’s name when chatting in-game because the first half gets censored as a slur.

[DracoL1ch]

He is so dreadfull we call him He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named

[TheIdleOne]

@Jeto

Update on the rewards:

• Free Book of Deeds have been set up

Sigh, just when we were starting to have fun.

It now shows 2 Book of Deeds on the Free side, up from the 0 from before, but down 1 from the usual 3 Book of Deeds per previous/older campaigns.

Paid side still has 3 Book of Deeds, so it wasn’t shifted there.

Intended?

[Risa]

@Darkborne

It’s just his spell is…missing something. I like the jumble to disorient the team, but his damage is hardly going to do anything.

Compare it to Kalika (the only other mythic that does 1x magic damage to 4 random targets), I don’t feel its spell miss anything big. Maybe boost ratio can be bumped to 6x, but that’s it.

[STUB]

@DarwinX

Tarot card legendaries are almost always mediocre

I agree with this if your not a “completionist” tarot cards are pretty much little to no use, now the new tarots are no longer used for forging other troops they seem pretty pointless. Maybe more thought from the devs to somehow interweaving older and\or dead content like curse runes etc

[Stratelier]

@mgmt

To be fair, Zuul and Ctharrasque are pretty easy to take down, you just gotta do it before it can cast.

@Jeto

Imagine the Campaign lore wrote something like "Dago’Nath arose from the great depths and came crashing down on the small coastal town… where he dealt 37 damage to 4 random villagers:

Except it emerged covered in webs, so it only dealt 2 damage each to 4 random people?

[mgmt]

@Risa

Compare it to Kalika (the only other mythic that does 1x magic damage to 4 random targets), I don’t feel its spell miss anything big.

It’s not the only other, even by that very narrow criterion.

Morthani’s Darkness hits 4 random targets for 1x magic, only her spell completely disregards armor and steals the health for herself.

Couple it with creation of an über-doomskull every turn (IMO far, far superior to either a submerge gem or half an elemental gem), and there’s no contest. MD is a quality mythic. Kalika and Dago’nath on the other hand are the sort of mythics that I’d seldom deploy even when staring down their kingdom or troop type restrictions.

[Darkborne]

If you stun Dago’Nath, it’s pretty much over. If he exploded all submerge gems after he casted, he would at least have some follow-up. And quite honestly, boost ratios only matter with a small minority of troops (Baldr, Arcturion, to name a few), and they need to have more of an impact. I’m not saying that more troops need to act like Lapina Explorer in arena, but we should at least consider what could happen if troops can power up with specific gems on the board.

Megavore and Piscea just have more uses and utility, and will probably be used with Merfolk/Merlantis restrictions and other stuff a lot more than this…thing. The campaign mythic this time just could be a defensive annoyance, and that’s kind of the only unique feature he has going for him.

[Risa]

@mgmt

Morthani’s Darkness hits 4 random targets for 1x magic, only her spell completely disregards armor and steals the health for herself.

Couple it with creation of an über-doomskull every turn (IMO far, far superior to either a submerge gem or half an elemental gem), and there’s no contest. MD is a quality mythic. Kalika and Dago’nath on the other hand are the sort of mythics that I’d seldom deploy even when staring down their kingdom or troop type restrictions.

You are of course right.
I said “the only other”, because I consider normal damage and true damage are of completely different tier of power. 1x magic true damage worth about 1.5x magic normal damage in my book.

MD is one of “tier 0” mythics, inferior to only a very few "tier -1"s (which include takshaka, stellarix, and maybe zuul’goth, ctharrasque, and chrysantherax). I’d not use MD as basline of power to judge new mythic. That will centainly leads to power creep.
But on the other hand, Dago’Nath compares itself to zuul’goth and ctharrasque in its lore text. I guess that raises our expectation of its power…