http://ashtender.com/gems/troops?filter=empowered
After perusing the empowered troops i noticed troops that are perfect counters to what is commonly played. I also noticed that it is easy to make empowered teams that uses all 6 colors that counter the current meta and to ensure overflow protection with prismatic orb.
Lamia
faunessa
soothsayer
prisma orb.
What is your best all color empowered teams.
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Can you go into more detail on how this counters the commonly played? Are we talking Mawrcy? Goblins? Mab and friends?
Also why use Soothsayer in that team instead of say, Keghammer who can counter Jarl at least. Soothsayer doesnât really seem to add much except maybe to Prismatic Orb.
Been looking at empowered teams myself lately, but I donât have the traits to properly test them out D: But more aiming at quick traitstone farming, rather than PVP
Please explain how this team counters the current meta?
Forgive me, I only play 100s of battles a week in top tier pvp, so donât quite appreciate your point.
Have you tried invading top tier pvp with such a team? If so, please post a video so we can learn from this, as I donât see such a team being remotely effective:
- Lamiaâs damage canât be targeted
- Faunessa is the only targeted damage
- Soothsayer buffs Magic which doesnât benefit Lamia at all or Faunessa much
- Prismatic Orb makes so few gems itâs as likely to hand the board to the enemy
- what do you do in turn 4 after youâve fired the three spells, to not great effect?
Er, no⌠even if the lower tier meta is all goblins, I donât quite see this deck being especially effective against themâŚ
Best empowered troop by a long way is Mercy.
Gob-chomper offers an interesting Empowered counter to Maw (and Goblins!), but you really need two of them (for Maws), and so far I am finding it hard to build a fully effective team around it. Iâd welcome your expert input further.
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The team i listed is an anti-skull team for an example.
i can post empowered teams that counter other metaish stuff as well but use your imagination.
Yeah, it can hit high attack troops pretty hard, but I still donât see why Soothsayer is in there 
Soothsayer is there as both an empowered troop and because he boosts two troopâs magic (hero and the one that gives health)
Anti maw team is http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6023,6017,6156,1091
Anti-goblin team is http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6173,6023,6017,1091
Anti-giant team/high magic team http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6023,6017,6096,1091
Then again they start with full mana and start with a quick counter and then use the enemies team against itself. Also does lamia activate mawâs trait or no?
She shouldnât itâs not Skull Damage
That is true, ignore my question. I thought it was when he dealt damage to a troop not by skull damage. My ability to make anti meta stuff is making me crazy. Also if only the elf eater was empowered things would be great against queen mab.
That âanti-mawâ team⌠have you actually tried using it?
Letâs try a poll - who thinks this team http://ashtender.com/gems/teams/6023,6017,6156,1091 would get any kind of win rate (better than 80% say) against a meta Maw/Mercy/IK/Shegrra team?
EDIT: that team is Lamia/StarGazer/DustDevil/PrismaticOrb (for those that canât or didnât follow the link)
- Yes - Anti-Maw team rocks!
- No - Anti-Maw team got MawledâŚ
0 voters
EDIT: I have closed the poll - the UI wonât let me delete the poll, sorry.
Just to confirm, we are talking about on invades yes?
Yes⌠(10 characters)
Dust devil moves maw causing mercy to charge Infernal king, Now i have lamia to take out everything as it tanks and poisons stuff. Got star gazer to boost the 13 attack and deny blue and orb to recharge her armour and it might create gems that go to the enemy or they might not. That is assuming the empowered team is invading. Also seeing as maw is a monster i could take another team against it that also is an empowered team.
Wasnât the âanti-mawâ team your anti-maw team? Or youâre saying youâd use a different team against maws?
Right, so IK can cast sooner and mow through your teamâŚ
Lamia is not a tank. No stoneskin, no life gain or heal⌠and poison achieves nothing against Maw teams⌠aha, that IK might die in 25+ turnsâŚ
Deny blue? eh? Lamia needs blue⌠and IK and Shegrra and Maw donât need blue⌠and youâre buffing Attack on a lead troop but have no consistent board control or way to create skullsâŚ
Orb is, sorry, just a bad weapon these days⌠Not seeing any use in the late gameâŚ
My anti-maw team was made to shutdown the maw team, However if i just want to focus down on maw i could with another team seeing as it is a monster. [quote=âJainus, post:13, topic:7972â]
Right, so IK can cast sooner and mow through your teamâŚ
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Yes in hopefully the same turn as mercy or it fails giving me a lot of extra turns filling red troops and nailing attacks. Remember the ai is not smart. [quote=âJainus, post:13, topic:7972â]
Lamia is not a tank. No stoneskin, no life gain or heal⌠and poison achieves nothing against Maw teams⌠aha, that IK might die in 25+ turnsâŚ
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I think you missed charm, my orb and my attack buffing star gazer with that point and mercy is not that strong on offence so those skulls might be 30 damage if you are lucky and then what do you do[quote=âJainus, post:13, topic:7972â]
Lamia needs blue⌠and IK and Shegrra and Maw donât need blue⌠and youâre buffing Attack on a lead troop but have no consistent board control or way to create skullsâŚ
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I do not need that much mana. Only 8 for her to do over 14 damage which is higher than her attack. Also i can do that in turn one or turn two depending on how i feel. [quote=âJainus, post:13, topic:7972â]
Orb is, sorry, just a bad weapon these days⌠Not seeing any use in the late gameâŚ
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Still cost less than some of your spells and covers all the colors i overflow with while mana blocking so mercy and team do not go off more than once. Though i find it funny you chose maw out of the other three teams. Did i hit a cord?
Still not a good counter to a Maw team imho. I stick to my team of:
Knight Coronet ***
Shadow Hunter **
Valkyrie ***
Naga Queen ***
double blue banner and 3x water link fills Knight Coronet almost instantly so you can fire it 3-4 times before the Maw is charged.
Not a team to specifically counter Maw, but a good team overall.
Letâs not argue more about it, and see how others consider the argument and vote.
That is a good attack team. However @Jainus thought hey how can i derail this into a personal vendetta against maw specifically.
No, you posted that an Empowered team would counter the meta teams, and proposed an Anti-Maw team. I am simply disagreeing. No vendetta at work hereâŚ
I am genuinely interested in finding better Maw-beating solutions given I face them in more than half of my games - I think GobChomper could help⌠maybe GobChomper x2, or GobChomper with Siren, or GobChomper with MercyâŚ
I also think itâs quite right, acceptable and arguably necessary, to put opposing views to your tactical advice, as (1) I disagree with it, and this is a forum and thatâs what forums are for, and (2) your advice could be very misleading to new players who could invest resources on a build that frankly doesnât workâŚ
Well the title says â⌠the great anti-maw voteâ.
And I still cant see how the anti-maw-team you posted works as a counter to Maw. Nevermind
I guess i specified in my opening post that it could kill maw specifically if you read it that was but i think the building process is what you missed about my original post,[quote=âJasonAshcroft, post:19, topic:7972â]
And I still cant see how the anti-maw-team you posted works as a counter to Maw. Nevermind
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Dust devil disengages mawâs third trait and stops mercy from filling it slowing and or stopping its spell from filling. Also i did not add the poll part to the title. @Jainus most likely did it to gather more attention to his poll not my poll. Also i showed how easy it was to build a team for countering maw but the âeasyâ part was ignored so this topic about empowered troops has devolved into anti-maw/mercy sentiment from @Jainus while hiding under the guise of âi didnât do nothing.â