@WHOCARES25 Well, the nerf has taken place, the troop will never come back as it originally was meant to.
There is nothing we can do, but moan - wasting our energy on absolutely nothing.
The party is kinda over.
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Ok if it’s to powerful, as we go first. That makes us to powerful.
So if we’re to powerful, we get easy wins.
See your words.
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Deamon traits trigger before your first turn. ANY triat that says “at start of battle” triggers before your first turn.
Troop 1 Daemon trait explodes a gem. Troop 2 stormmaker has made a storm. Cascade causes a 4+ match, triggering elementalist and/or Okra’Nos.
Before you make a move, they already got you.
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Ok. But we’re using the troop 1st Zuul.
So if we’re using the troop, and your scared we get beat.
Then it’s beatable.
And this is the point where I’d recommend to just take a deep breath an smile. Bonus points for whoever does an Ice Bucket Challenge and posts a video about it.
For all practical purposes, we don’t even know whether the devs ever see our feedback. The troop was an early draft, they may as well have intended to change it all along.
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Ok I obviously can’t teach basic English to people 
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So il stop lol.
I would like to say, this wouldn’t happen, if the Devs would close the information leak.
As it’s really annoying to see something good, and yes it’s good cos we go 1st (for the millionth time). That we will never use.
Anyway. You can read all my posts, I don’t attack people personally. As it’s just a game, and most on here are good guys.
Obviously Drac who did abuse me, isn’t one of those people, but he can’t help it, he’s obviously from a third world non English speaking country.
Yes. It makes us too powerful. You agree the troop was too powerful.
We get easy wins most of the time, maybe. But not always, because it’s heavily RNG-based. We could fail to get a 4+ match or only target one troop over and over. It’s not unbeatable. I know DracoL1ch thinks it is, but is clearly saying so (not seeing an issue with English there, unless you’re misreading it), however I don’t agree.
Pretty sure he means once it triggers it becomes unbeatable, not that it’s unbeatable turn 1. But I’m curious if I’m right there.
Anyway, the point is you might get easy wins MOST of the time, but the handful of times you fail, you can get caught by the enemy team getting lucky and you’re stuck with nothing you can do to counter it. At that point, the enemy becomes unbeatable.
But it’s all RNG. Not 100%
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No mate. I don’t agree it’s to powerful, as I haven’t used it.
I’m just using your statement of fact, that isn’t based on fact.
It’s based on hypothesis. And assumptions.
Ok so there’s no counter.
So like the journey troops. Pre nerf.
Or Chrys now.
Dude. I know you’re arguing with multiple people, and that’s fair enough, but I haven’t said it was unbeatable, so you’re not beating my points by arguing against someone else. And your patronising tone by telling me I don’t understand basic English, when I have carefully not pointed out your bad spelling and grammar, because we all make mistakes, is not helpful.
Take a sec, make sure you’re responding to the right person, and please stop attacking the person. I’ll assume you didn’t mean it, but focus on the points.
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Lol. So I just got flagged.
Tell me who flagged me, if your mature enough.
Tell me why, be sure I’m using your statements against you.
Some awful immature people on here.
English and spelling and grammar. 3 different things.
The internet isn’t based on grammar or spelling.
As new abbreviations come out every year, that start on the net from streamers.
So I type for speed, not to write shakespeare.
Cool. That was my point. We’re agreeing on that.
If there’s no counter, they either needed to add one, or nerf it. That’s my argument.
If they’d delayed the troop and added some others that were able to defend against it better, it could have been launched as it was, and not massively upset the balance. But without any counter, that’s a design problem.
They had counters. Several. They still do, even though the pathfinders got nerfed.
Ok I’m not agreeing. Again I’m reiterating what your putting.
But Chrys has no counter and isn’t nerfed.
And if there was really no counter , as we go 1st
That means we win, as there’s no counter 
Ok I give up, I submit on tiredness levels .
We can agree to disagree.
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Spelling and grammar are key components of English. Or any other language. Vocabulary, which is what you were criticising, is a key component, too.
Like I said, I wasn’t bothered because I could understand what you meant. But saying I don’t understand basic English, when you have no reason to, was just obviously wrong. And I’m pointing out you make mistakes, we all do. No reason to attack anyone, for that. Even if they attacked you first, for something else.
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That’s the most important thing in this entire thread. We don’t even know if player feedback had anything to do with the change, yet here were are with players having now been gaslighted into being the cause of the change.
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I apologise if I offended you.
Just if I’m pointing out things, that people are saying, and they can’t see the things are obviously in our favour. It gets frustrating.
Whether it’s
OP
Unbeatable
No counter
Or any other reason, as we go first, it’s all in our favour.
I’m not putting this again , it’s like killing your best footballer, because his twin brother is on the opponents side . It’s nuts to me.
Barrier allies and freeze enemies. It casts and does nothing. That’s a counter. And you have at least one turn, probably a few, to do that.
There aren’t many counters, it’s definitely a powerful troops. The levels of RNG needed to get it justify that somewhat, but it’s very powerful and can still be countered.
The only ways to defend against the original Okra’Nos would be to have your team blessed and try to inflict status effects on the enemy team, before they can get a single 4+ match, with RNG being a huge factor. It not impossible, but if crys casts you either die or survive and keep playing. If Okra’Nos triggers and you get unlucky, your whole team is stuck, unable to do anything.