6.0 Update - Into The Rift

[Live]

Spoiler says we start Nov 15, 2021 without a parallel campaign event.

[Cairnso]

Will there be multiple copies of the troops in the Pass? Enough to ascend?

[Arelana]

@Snooj

but I think people caring about about an out of game leaderboard are the minority.

Yes, and people prone to gambling addictions are also a minority, and lootbox/gacha systems prey on those people. If you’ve never felt the pull of “just 50 more chests” or “it’s only $10 and I’ll keep my complete collection”, you’re not part of this group, but these types of games thrive on addicts. They’re the more likely to dump a LOT of money on the game.

We can pretend that big spenders are just rich kids with a ton of disposable income all day long, but the reality is that there’s always going to be a segment of big spenders who spend because they’re addicted. It’s the same reason casinos make so much money.

@Adam

Really a 2nd battle pass? Honestly that’s a little ridiculous

Who didn’t see this coming? With the way people trip over themselves for the current elite (lol) pa$$es and “$10 mythics!” they have a golden goose and they know it.

F2P get more Legendary troops that will likely have absurdly small appearance chance in the Vault and now have to wait 2-3 months for the privilege.

@Kafka

They will become available via other means after the Kingdom Pass ends when the new Kingdom is featured in a weekly event.

Please clarify whether “other means” means the Soulforge or the Cash Shop.

@Maxx

focusing updates solely on how to get more money out of players.

Yeah, I was upset with the campaign pa$$ thing but knowing every new Kingdom from here on is going to be tied to yet another goddamn subscription disgusts me.

Let’s all remember that for the first 4 years of new ownership, the devs get paid based on how well GoW does financially. They’re writing their own paychecks.

[PGSundling]

I did find another option. For the first time in 5 years, I spent all day playing games that were not GoW. I’m feeling much better about not needing to spend money on this game anymore.

Add as many paywalls as you want devs. I’m over it. Since I’d only been playing GoW for over 5 years, my gaming to-do list had grown to over 150 games. It feels good to finally cross games off my list.

[aurora_x]

@Kafka
The new troops will be available from Gold-, Glory-, Gem- and VIP-chests and from Event-chests when the new kingdom is event kingdom… What about guild chests?

[overthinker]

Is there any information on the price of the “Royal kingdom pass”?

[Starlite]

@Eika

@PGSundling

It’s distressing how much time and money I’ve put into this game.

That is on you tho. You did not had to spend so much time and money on the game. I also spent much time and money, but when it comes to money it was not a lot if I share it on 6 years, I am VIP11 soon 12.

@PGSundling

Now we will have two pay gates at the same time.

No you don’t have to pay at all.

@Eika - You’re ignoring the psychology of these games. Many people get sucked in and feel psychological pressure to participate in various aspects of games that may not be good for them.

These problems can be especially severe for people suffering from Mental Health issues, or who are neurodivergent (ASD, ADHD, OCD, etc, etc).

The reality is, we have an emotional investment in this game, after many years of play.

The evidence is that we continue to put up with significant issues that never get fixed.

[Shimrra]

@Kafka

• 1 Tarot Legendary Troop – Will be available in the Royal Pass only, and will go into the Vault after 2-3 months.

I have yet to be impressed by the power level of any of these tarot things so far, so gameplay is not impacted. But collectors are not happy.

@Kafka

1 Legendary Troop (the Battlecrasher) – Will be available in the Royal Pass only, and will go into glory, gem & VIP chests after 2-3 months (this will also be available in shop bundle).

This is gonna have to depend, again, on how useful these troops are. Quality / power level has gone downhill pretty generally, so new troops being sequestered in pay-to-maybe-lose isn’t a huge blow, unless they’re actually useful for something besides padding out collections or stats.

There are really only two options:

• Either the troops aren’t very useful and there’s no harm done to leave them alone. Collectors are unhappy, people who fork over money get ripped off, and there aren’t good troops. OR
• The troops are useful and it becomes literal pay-to-win, admittedly on a potentially minor scale due to the sheer volume of troops in the game.

Both these options are freaking pathetic. So I hope for all our sakes that something better is going to happen.

[Starlite]

Why on Krystara did you unimaginatively call them “Miles,” when “Leagues” would fit so much better with the fantasy theme?!

[Shimrra]

Oh and as for this stupid thing …

@Kafka

• We have fixed an assortment of smaller issues.

NO. Give us damn details. I’m literally about to go into focus mode for an hour or two to write up release notes for a fortnightly patch cycle of another product. It will be detailed. It will have everything. The least we could see here is what issues were fixed. End of story!

[Starlite]

Hear, hear!!!

There’s no shame in admitting you made a mistake. There is a LOT of shame in trying to hide it, deceiving players, and generally acting unethically, or simply grandiosely. Zero points.

[esslee]

ALL of the troops and the tarot WILL eventually be available without buying a pass. I have just spent £50 on the Guardians of the Galaxy video game because I want to play it even tho it will be finished in hours. Therefore I really don’t mind spending a comparitively tiny amount on GoW for 7 years of daily gameplay ! Even when the game began you could purchase gems to assist you in progressing the game and I don’t think they ever advertised as being a fully ftp game. Thing is that most players have never bought a gem and have gathered more than enough of various currencies free. If players want all the new stuff free they will have to wait. At least there is a choice and I’m not waiting

[sls]

Will we be seeing more tower events now that the schedule has become less monotonous?

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Quoting so this doesn’t get buried:

@Arelana

@Kafka

[Weapons] They will become available via other means after the Kingdom Pass ends when the new Kingdom is featured in a weekly event.

Please clarify whether “other means” means the Soulforge[, Event Shop] or the Cash Shop.

[Fourdottwoone]

@Kafka

There’s still a problem with the original Wyrmrun trait so it hasn’t been changed back yet. When we have more information we’ll let you know.

@Kafka

EDIT re: Wyrmrun traits - I followed up with the team and these should be fixed, they’re just going through testing at the moment to verify the changes before we push it live (we will most likely not release the fix this week as by the time it’s gone through QA it will be too close to the weekend).

Thanks for the update. I have to admit I’m positively surprised, I didn’t really expect any response.

[Fourdottwoone]

@Kafka

Royal Pass players also have the option to purchase a Royal Pass Boost which will earn them 10 Levels in the Kingdom Pass. This is a repeatable purchase available to Royal Pass holders at any level, even for the bonus Royal Pass levels past 50.

This part has me worried. Reading between the lines, any chance this translates to unlimited purchases of imperial deeds and books for very heavy spenders? As the only way to ever realistically meet kingdom power level 27 requirements?

[Mina1101]

When should this update come?

[Nullings]

Let me think a bit about Kingdom Crowns.

@Kafka

Players will only be able to earn a maximum of 10 Kingdom Crowns per day, with the chance to encounter the Kingdom Battlecrasher decreasing after players have encountered it 5 times. This will reset daily.

This leads to playing more Explores/PvP/cPvP/Challenges/Arena, at least how the devs see it. What will be really? Many quick passes of Explore D1 with “Barrage” team, because other ways will be slower.

What about Crowns in total? If a player finds easy 5 (higher Battlecrasher chances) a day, he can earn 5 x 7 x 5 = 175 KCs. That’s not enough to get to level 50 - it needs 250 KCs. So he needs to get hard 5 (lower Battlecrasher chances) in 15 days at least. Where to go for them? Explore D1, exactly. More senseless battles to the god of senseless battles!

[Rockwell]

@Shimrra

I’m literally about to go into focus mode for an hour or two to write up release notes for a fortnightly patch cycle of another product. It will be detailed. It will have everything.

Y’see, you’re just making life hard for yourself.

Add “Working as intended” to the notes, put your feet up and have a coffee…

[TimeKnight]

So… If I understand correctly, this is how Nexus’ troop will be released, right?

Art Spoiler

2 troops in Ultra-Rare and Legendary might switch place.

Week 1

Week 2+3

14/16 for free is not that bad. I can get the Legendary later when I chase monthly Mythic.

The Tarot though, they really need to do something about it. Vault is an unrealistic way to get them all along a huge pile of other stuff. Weekly rotating crafting recipe in Soulforge would be so nice. Although a Orb of Fortune that drop random tarot would be kinda cool.

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So… That Halloween event ended up being a test run for Kingdom Pass event.

I hope all bug was ironed out now. Would be a big shame if the Battlecrasher just stop showing up for a day again.

Still, if we get all 10 crowns everyday, we would have 350 crown by the end of the event, and we only need 250 to finish the pass, so that’s good. Getting 7-8 on average would be enough. If not, then it’s gem skipping time…

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And I’m actually excited for Journey event. It’s combined a lot of previous one in meaningful way. To not only win, but win well like Guild War with heavy restrictions on 3 troops (always bring Pathfinder) seems fun and challenging! Can’t wait to try it soon!

[Arelana]

@Fourdottwoone

Reading between the lines, any chance this translates to unlimited purchases of imperial deeds and books for very heavy spenders?

I read the same thing you did. Shrines were the intro to whale bait, this is upgraded whale bait.