I feel like 100% chance at full-green explosions plus extra turn was too much. What about:
Explode a random number of Green Gems (at least one). Gain an Extra Turn.
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Maybe instead of pure random a range like 4-12 green gems
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Shameless self-promotion, but my idea is in line with this manner of thinking:
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Even with no buff at all, that seems like too much? Not arguing, just curiousâŚ
Is it just too much mana generated (essentially guaranteeing that some other Goblin is going to fill up and keep the cycle going)?
Might be, but I think itâs borderline, because a single Green explosion + Extra Turn would actually be worse than Goblin Rocket, where you have control over what you explode. So sometimes sheâd be great, and other times sheâd be mediocre, but no matter what, you could count on her for some mana, some board manipulation, and an extra turn.
What makes her feel so bad after the nerf, in my opinion, is not necessarily the mana you donât gain when she misfires but the fact that she doesnât shake up the board at all in that case.
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Goblin rocket also does damage when he casts, so it should definitely be more than 1 gem exploded for PF, just to keep pace with GR.
But Fizzbang has the potential to destroy the whole board, so itâd balance out. Sometimes sheâd be worse than Rocket (when the die roll gives you one kaboom), usually sheâd be better (when it gives you 2+).
In my opinion, thatâd really cement her as a reckless exploder. Sometimes you get huge explosions, sometimes just itty bitty ones. Either way, you get to go again.
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Yes, in a previous post, youâd mentioned that casting her now can feel like a wasted move, but youâre still buffing something and getting an extra turn, so you are unquestionably better off than when you started.
Between the art, lore and concept of this troop, I feel like it should be fun and goofy, so a random number of exploded gems, or even some of the suggestions like having a random chance of something bad happening to your own troops, feels appropriate.
TrueâŚthen again, we already have Nobend Brothers for the ârandom chance of something randomâ happening. I think her identity should be cemented as an exploder, and not a buffer. Thatâs my two cents, though, and I recognize not everyone agrees.
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Instead of a random number of gems, just make it random gems; e.g, âExplode X (3, 5, whatever) random Green gems (or hell, just ârandom gemsâ with no color qualifier). Gain an extra turn.â Sheâd still feel like she did before; sheâd have a random element; she couldnât blow up the entire board; she wouldnât touch stats.
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I just want to add that i am enjoying this discussion so thank you @Stan and @Lyya.
Fizzy was well on her way to becoming my favorite troop until this morning and i would live to se her set back on that path
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My general experience with her was:
- Paired with Nobend Brothers: Her explosions could sometimes fill the little rascals, if they cast another explosion, then things could go on for a while as Fizzy could refill again. It repeats the loop dangerously if Fizzy gives magic to Nobend Brothers.
- If she was in third position, safe from Khorvash mana drain, but not from King Highforge and Kraken spells i would need to rethink what team i should use. Highforge is a solid choice to stun her and allow some other dwarf to finish her off.
- If she was paired with Mab, i would risk having a bad time because at least one of my troops could be frozen⌠Maw can take Mab and usually plow through the goblins to victory, but if i lose Maw and IK the battle is over. Happened a few times.
Didnât had many battle against her because of my limited time for the game lately.
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I showed my wife the art and concept of Princess Fizzbang and she was really excited to get her. The thought of having her, Holly Hobgoblin, Queen Grapplepot and Bugbear (I canât tell you what she calls this guy, but it is funny in a very non-PC way) on a single team would make up for a lot of negatives in the game. I know thatâs not an ideal Goblin team, but sometimes you just have to do what makes you happy and not worry about min-maxing everything.
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You simply must PM me this! I could use a hearty laugh!
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Its good to see that so many wants another rework on her. Keeps my hopes UP! 
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Actually, letâs run through the math to differentiate her from Goblin Rocket.
- Assume players using the Rocket will almost always target a gem on the inner portion of the board, to hit 9 gems with the explosion. The only reason to choose anything else would be to deliberately cause a match-4 or somesuch, but thatâs really unquantifiable so letâs stick with the simple assumption.
- With 4 corners that each hit 4 gems when exploded, 24 edge spots that each hit 6 gems when exploded, and 36 inner spots that each hit 9 gems when exploded, if there are equal odds to choose any one spot then an average randomly-selected explosion would hit 7.5625 gems.
- Letâs account for Goblin Rocketâs damage.
** The simplest âdirect damage to a random enemyâ with no other effect that I can find offhand is the Hunterâs Spear, which costs 6 mana for (Magic+3) damage.
** Goblin Rocket, conveniently enough, also deals (Magic+3) damage, so letâs say that 6 manaâs worth of his ability cost goes to his damage. That means the remaining 5 mana of his ability cost buys an extra turn plus an explosion that hits 9 gems.
** Without being able to break the costs down further, letâs just stay simple and assume that the 5 mana is split 50/50 between the extra turn and the gems. So now, we can say that the extra turn is worth 2.5 mana, and hitting 9 gems with an explosion is worth 2.5 mana (or 3.6 gems per point of mana). - Princess Fizzbangâs ability costs 13 mana. Letâs work it backwards with the same baselines as the Goblin Rocket: spend 2.5 points for the extra turn, and we have 10.5 points left. 10.5 points at 3.6 gems per point of mana means her explosions would hit 37.8 gems with her remaining budget.
- If an average randomly-selected explosion hits 7.5625 gems, then in order to hit 37.8 gems, Fizzbang would need to explode 4.99 gems.
Ta da! âExplode 5 random gems. Gain an extra turn.â with no additional effect, at a 13 mana cost, would keep her balanced similarly to the Goblin Rocket while still retaining the unique feel (and fun!) that she had to begin with.
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I know how much fun she was to play on pvp, but she was on her way to completely destroying guild wars, which is a major focus on a lot of players. Talk about Kerberos FG all over again but a zillion times worse.
It was fully possible to make one or two moves, then never get another move because of her spell. That might be fun in pvp where it was a race to power your fizzbang first, but using monocolors and having no direct counter I.E red day and having only 5 battles with REAL consequence (itâs costing me gems 
) is zero fun and a tad bit stressful.
Sheâs still pretty beastly on defense, so I wouldnât say weâre out of the woods there.
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Oh she is but I can handle her now
âThe stat buff didnât fit with her to begin with (how is she exploding you healthier or exploding you meaner?). Remove the stat buff entirely, and return the explosion and extra turn to how it was, and sheâll âfeel rightâ again without runaway inflation slamming alliesâ stats up to 1000.â
For the love of Tentacled Deities could you people stop applying logic to a match 3 game with CCG elements? We are talking about a game where beasts eat robots and skeletons, you know.
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