Monthly meta. This too shall pass.
Actually I donât disagree with you.
If you are a competitive PvP player, you know your defense teamâs win rate is tied to your ranking. So youâre really only motivated to use the team youâve found with the highest overall PvP win rate. It just so happens that means âa griefing teamâ.
For a player less interested in the upper tiers, âa more varied PvP experienceâ is desired. Honestly these players have no reason to care about their defense team. So theyâve got âwhateverâ and tend to actually provide what variety we get.
As far as I can tell, thereâs nothing on the roadmap intended to address this. Hence the âyawnâ. Whatever happens to be a team no oneâs super-secret PvP team can handle is going to be the dominant high-end meta. That Dawnbringer snuck into the spotlight tells me the secret sauce teams donât deal with Barrier well, which says a few things about what the attackers are going to do, and helps predictions of what the next meta-of-the-month will be.
Im certainly not a competitive PvP player. Iâll do what is required to get to rank 1 for the rewards and then thatâs me done for the week. Hats off to those who play a lot but I donât have the time to put those kind of hours in, nor do I think it is worth it.
Nevertheless, youâll always have meta teams, plenty of them in guild wars let alone PvP. I understand how such teams frustrate people and that variation is wanted. I see both sides of the coin but Iâm just plain lazy
The rewards for pvp rankings arenât worth it, the gold and glory gained for a weekâs play are however.
I used a all beast team when we were able to tweak collection of gems. Because I was able to improve the teams performance a lot this way. So it managed to win a lot. Before this it lost more than it won. and now that its returned to no sliders, they went back to heavy losses. So I removed them. Iâd do a different team but I hate losing. So I have a typical Famine/Psion team. And its unlikely theyâll add sliders back in. Or Iâd toss in other teams. Iâd also toss in a different team if the AI could play better. It seems the AI is too stupid at the moment to play even remotely effective unless its led by the hand. Which troops like the above can do for a braindead AI.
Rule of making an observation about rules in a game on an internet forum:
No matter how correct you are, some player somewhere has been the edge case and will try to derail your entire statement because of that.
This kind of team shouldnât even exist. Being able to loop ad nauseum so easily is more than toxic for a game like GoW. At least goblins is all about random. This one is just a free win in defense 75% of the time.
The most amazing thing to me about this is how many people have DB. Iâm a level 1,100something and VIP level 5 and I have like⌠200k souls? And you need what, over a million? Maybe Iâm just stupid and donât know how to farm souls because even Pharos-Ra teams only get me 120 per battle no matter what I do.
You should play with 3 necromancer trait units and wear the celestial armor.
I play with 3 warlocks and 1 dragon soul. I win 375 soul per battle in exploration.
This is a⌠strange notion⌠that you have right here. I can understand that your frustration is quite high to the point of such overreaction. But still you are wrong on what you are angry about.
Maxx, the thing is, players donât owe nothing to other players, specially if itâs a competitive mode. PVP in GoW is not exactly competitve, but if it was you should expect to always face the best/strongest team someone can assemble, and thatâs what defines a Meta.
Itâs ok if you want to field whatever team you want to help players, but itâs also ok if people donât do that. Itâs not their job to provide variety and a better experience to other players. And thatâs a very subjective matter as some players feel challenged by strong teams or simply figuring out reliable strategies to deal with said teams.
You could only blame the players for griefing in very few cases, like stalling matchs if we would have real-time PVP, or fielding bugged troops that could force a reset in the game or would have an unintended advantage.
If they are not exploiting the game in any sense, then you shouldnât get mad at them about anything.
Now, if you want variety on PVP thatâs another topic that can be discussed.
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You just called her âone of the worst people in GoWâ for something you plan to do for revenge. What does that make you?
This is a⌠strange notion⌠that you have right here. I can understand that your frustration is quite high to the point of such overreaction. But still you are wrong on what you are angry about.
Yeah youâre right I am probably overreacting.
Iâm going to go back to arena and forget about pvp for a while.
Now, if you want variety on PVP thatâs another topic that can be discussed.
Itâs been done to death. One of the troops on the meta team gets nerfed we get a bit of variety for a while until another annoying team gets found and itâs back to no variety again.
You just called her âone of the worst people in GoWâ for something you plan to do for revenge. What does that make you?
A hypocrite
Itâs been done to death. One of the troops on the meta team gets nerfed we get a bit of variety for a while until another annoying team gets found and itâs back to no variety again.
And itâs a thing that must be discussed as long as itâs needed. At this point itâs hardly about just nerfing some troops or effects, itâs simply that we have a dire need for reworks too as well as some clever solution to make people opt for new teams every week or so.
There is no rotation in GoW outside the release of stronger troops (a.k.a powercreep) there is nothing limiting what the players can use, and honestly i suggested it a long time ago that having some restrictions could work:
Hmmmm⌠All the talk about PVP variety has kept me thinking while i was also checking my MTG collection to see what are in the current meta and what was banned/unbanned recently. After a while i came up with an idea that maybe could be implemented on GoW: Weekly tournament bans. What do you mean? Each week we could have something âremovedâ from the game, be it troops or kingdoms. It would affect the tournament only and only for the duration of one week. It brings more variety of teams for a whâŚ
I still think it can work, at this point just the âcarrotâ (I expect @Sheba to appear eventually ) wouldnât do much of a thing, as in, what can be ofered for changing teams without literally giving players a reward for doing nothing? They arenât playing their teams on defense and they lose almost nothing for each defeat, so even a small token of incentive seems kind of a lot in my (unpopular) opinion.
The restriction on team building is surely a âstickâ, but one we really need i think.
I deleted my last comment. Iâm sorry @NekrosLucem I was just really annoyed with pvp and I shouldnât have taken it out on you.
For now Iâm just going to stick to arena and explore and forget about pvp for the rest of the week. I think it might even be time to quit the game.
I think it might even be time to quit the game.
I hope you stay, just take a rest for a while. I can imagine you are truly ashamed and such decision should be made when you reach a better emotional balance.
I probably should take a rest 850 battles is too many in a week for me.
Iâm reading your PvP bans thread now and Iâll reply there.
@Lyya could you please lock this thread? I probably shouldnât have made it in the first place