[Poll] How do you feel about the current Treasure drop rate?

My advice would be to not take any hoard past 200. The cost is just too much both in treasures and in gold. For those delves that require higher hoards you have 2 options. Option 1: save up about 3000 gems and do it on a Tuesday. Option 2: be patient, eventually you will have a +100% kingdom bonus giving you an effective hoard of 400. This may take a couple years but the option is there.

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Yes ofc monetization drives it all but the mere thought of implementing something that’s supposed to take YEARS is kinda shitty if you ask me. I don’t mind it tho as again it’s their game, they do whatever they want.

@Fleg

My advice would be to not take any hoard past 200. The cost is just too much both in treasures and in gold. For those delves that require higher hoards you have 2 options. Option 1: save up about 3000 gems and do it on a Tuesday. Option 2: be patient, eventually you will have a +100% kingdom bonus giving you an effective hoard of 400. This may take a couple years but the option is there.

The thing is, it’s easier to get the gold to up hoard than to rely on getting those books. I still haven’t gotten enough to 15 all kingdoms, let alone starting to look at the books. Farming gold is at least not too hard.

let’s assume, removed troops would be replaced with tresures of same rarity, so:

no common and no mythic treasures involved

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That’s…not how it would work. At least, not how it’s currently proposed.

What has been proposed is that the initial roll — troops vs. treasures — would default to the latter. The drop rates wouldn’t change, it would just ensure someone would never end up with a pile of 100 extra faction troops.

If, instead, the troop table drops were just replaced with their respective rarity treasures, the dilute “problem” currently faced would still exist, and would do even less to make mythic treasures more accessible, which is all most people really care about.

More King’s Crowns? Meh. More Genie’s lamps? Okay, that’d be good. More of both would be better than what we currently have.

But I’m not sure they can replace a troop drop table with a second treasure drop table — I’d imagine it’s far easier for them to just drop a table roll as proposed, rather than make a check for which initial table to roll, then roll them both :man_shrugging:

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It wouldn’t change the rate of mythic and common treasure, but it would increse the numbers for everything from rare to legendary. Increase would be rather small for Genie Lamps. Nothing crazy… guess it would look like this:

Drop rate from portal
basic after change
Treasure 55,00% 100,00%
common 7,48% 7,48%
rare 24,53% 48,02%
ultra-rare 12,98% 25,98%
epic 6,05% 12,04%
legendary 2,97% 5,49%
mythic 0,99% 0,99%
Faction 45,00% 0,00%
rare 23,49% 0,00%
ultra-rare 13,00% 0,00%
epic 5,99% 0,00%
legendary 2,52% 0,00%

If you look at this and think of “usability”. Only somehow ‘usefull’ changes would be:
epic from 6,05% to 12,04%
legendary from 2,97% to 5,49%

(i personaly dont use treasures below legendary for hoards, but some people on forums claimed they were also using epic ones).
Everything else → doesn’t matter (either drop rates dont change, or aren’t usefull).

So… nothing “game changing”, it would still be a grind, but slightly more “user friendly”

Drop rate from portal
basic after change 1 table only
Treasure 55,00% 100,00% 100%
common 7,48% 7,48% 13,6%
rare 24,53% 48,02% 44,6%
ultra-rare 12,98% 25,98% 23,6%
epic 6,05% 12,04% 11%
legendary 2,97% 5,49% 5,4%
mythic 0,99% 0,99% 1,81%
Faction 45,00% 0,00% 0,00%
rare 23,49% 0,00% 0,00%
ultra-rare 13,00% 0,00% 0,00%
epic 5,99% 0,00% 0,00%
legendary 2,52% 0,00% 0,00%

I went ahead and added a column for the scenario where troop pulls are disregarded, and re-drawn as treasures. Honestly not that big a difference. More common troops, and a few more mythics, but surprisingly little difference otherwise.

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yeep, basicaly pool of interesting troops says kind of the same, with biggest differance being almost double increase in number of mythic treasures:

rarity base changed 1 table
epic 6,05% 12,04% 11%
legendary 2,97% 5,49% 5,4%
mythic 0,99% 0,99% 1,81%

If i would guess:
most possible scenario is that drop tables wont change at all
other than that, both options are reasonable, as they would at least give “a bit more” treasures for those with maxed faction troops, development might go either way