Itâs based on the difference in rank between your guilds. You curb-stomped a baby-guild, and got no xp to level up. Not surprising.
Beating a higher guild would give you way more. Our guild beat a way lower guild and got 0 on day one, then beat a higher level guild and got 10 on day 2, then narrowly beat a higher level guild and got 16 on day 3.
Same as losing to a way higher guild isnât gonna give you much negative points, but losing to a way lower guild probably gives you high negative points, I assume.
They are ranked 50,000 and have no rating there is not even close to 5000 active guilds on ps5 let alone 50 itâs just an old guild that never been removed
50,000 vs number 3 that would mean everyone is in the same bracket

Possibly you faced a generated Guild because there was not enough real Guilds to match everyone to in your bracket.
Why penalize a guild with ZERO points when the acive guild was randomly matched with a dead guild where no one played? The active guild did their part - they should not walk away with ZERO points. If no one on the opponent side partiicpated, no defenses set up etc, even if they âopted-inâ to play wars, it should be automatically voided and they should not be allowed to participate in wars. The ZERO score messes with the rankings of the active guild. We played the horde of raydan yesterday and sameâŚ.got ZERO bonus today from that. This effectively reduces our opportunities to climb the leaderboard, as we now have had only three viable matches to earn points, while other guilds have four viable opponents to earn points.
This penalizes the active guildâŚ..same thing happened to my guild. Other guilds had potentially 4 days to get points, we were reduced to only 3 days because we also played the horde of raydan. Sounds tremendously unfair to me.
I didnt mention that they should get zero points, was just explaining why they faced a guild that doesnt exist
No, you did not mention zero points, but that is what we got - zero. So can you please explain how many points our guildâs efforts was worth then, against the horde of raydan? Everyone spent time to play all their battles and I donât feel itâs right to get nothing to show for it.
It wasnât responded to because currently, I am grabbing multiple reports to share with the team when they start for the day.
Once I have an answer, Iâll share it.
Thank you, Jeto! Appreciate you looking into this and will wait to hear your teamâs response and resolution.
Just a reminder though..
Presumably because they had an easy day, with 5 guaranteed (ish) wins for every player in the guild (assuming they chose to fight them) meaning they got the rewards for those 5 wins. AND guaranteed win for the day with the rewards that come from winning the day. Thatâs worth not getting any points to rank up brackets, to most guilds. Sure, some wonât choose that, but most would prefer to have that deal every day of the guild war.
And itâs not like they had any points taken away. That would have been unfair. But fighting an easy opponent, and getting no points just means you get all the rewards and keep the same points total. And if every high ranking guild has this happen to them an equal amount of times, itâs entirely fair. As for whether that actually happens, who knows? But, at least in theory, it should be fair.
And got rewarded for it. They get rewards for battles won, and the day won.
I promise you, most guilds would say the exact opposite. If theyâre matched up against an enemy that places no defenses and doesnât attack, most guilds would still want to play against them and get the easy win. I get that a small percentage of guilds (many at the highest levels) wouldnât, and theyâd think this was bad, but most players would think it was good.
To be clear, Iâd consider this two separate issues. 1) being matched against a guild that places no defense and does no attack, which allows an easy win, but has no effect on the points gained towards guild rank (thatâs only based on difference in guild level, not how active the guild is during the war AFAIK), and 2) being matched against a dummy guild OR much lower level guild, which means that winning doesnât give rank points.
If they were matched against the number 1 guild, but all the players in that guild were on holiday that week and forgot to opt-out, theyâd be up against a higher level guild which didnât place defense or attack, and still get points for their rank, to make it clearer (though I doubt this would ever happen, obviously).
Or if they were matched against a low level guild with full defenses, that attacked fully, and still won, theyâd get no points for their rank, even though the enemy guild put up a fight.
See? It is fair. You faced a dummy guild and so did another high ranking guild. You both got no points, so in theory that balances out.
Well, we are not one of those guilds who will be happy with just rewards and no glory and just quietly go away. So if one guild is always playing 4 live opponents while another gets 1 or even 2 ghost guild battles, how could the leaderboard ever be accurate? One guild constantly gains ground, while another is blocked from climbing simply because they donât get enough real matches. The guild stuck with ghost battles has no chance to catch up â making the entire leaderboard meaningless. Itâs like playing in a sports league where you get the trophy but your wins never count in the standings â sure, you walk away with a prize, but the recognition and competition are stripped away. Thatâs total crap. And if the answer is just, âBe happy with the rewards but forget the glory,â then whatâs the point of even having a leaderboard? If thatâs the mindset, why bother competing at all?
The only way it would be fair is if everyone in the game played The Horde of Raydan at least once this guild wars.