Give us a chance to get Older Weapons

And those reasons are still as valid as ever. Things get pushed, priorities are established, and we need to juggle all of this as best we can.

As mentioned earlier, older weapon availability is a subject I have raised several times. When I know more, I will tell you, but at this stage there is nothing finite that I can release.

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I understand that. Just keep up the good work that you are doing. All of the gems of wars employers.

OK that was more or less the update I think we needed. Not what we wanted but hey, “we know this is an issue” and “we want to do something” are more than we had this morning? I’m going to use my own words and phrase the rest as “you guys can’t figure out how it should work either, we’re having just as many issues with that”.

So not next update, and honestly from the sound of it there’s no real timeline.

I mean, I could follow that up with something dorky and mean but I’m not really that spiteful. I just feel a little sad that there’s a batch of players who are going to burn out and give up instead of joining endgame.

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Just to be clear, I don’t remember promising anything, and Tacet’s information is second or third hand. If you hear it from a developer please quote directly to avoid misinformation.

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Well, seen i started in 2018 had no clue about the 2016 thread, reading basically exact same reply to exactly same request in a 2 years and half old thread make it clear it got 0 point keep talking about this.

Guess i was lucky and made right in time to get my beloved Yas Pride.

@Saltypatra Couldn’t you just offer the popular ones Earth’s Fury, Trickster’s Shot, Rope Dart etc in flash offers? It’s in the 4.1 patch notes that flash offers will have weapon deals.

If you offer the popular ones in flash offers that will make a lot of people happy while you can take your time to make a better way.

@Maxx, we don’t want to offer stop gap measures, and would prefer to implement a long term, final solution.

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You have said that with other things as well and it’s usually worth the wait. I trust you guys will give us a good way of getting them.

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@Saltypatra Keep up the good work. All of the Gems of wars employees are amazing and awesome. This game gets better every year. Thank you all for making an amazing game.

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I like the game.
It is awesome.
However it’d be awesomeR if you guys would come up with a solution for this issue sooner rather than later.

Thanks and no pressure :stuck_out_tongue:

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On the positive side, im at the top of the xbox leaderboard for owned weapons. Where i will stay :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Okay, I’ll bite and sketch another way to allow players to obtain older weapons:

Weapons have rarities now. Put them in the chests at low drop rates (similar to mythics). Us old folks will drop tons of keys on them.

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Needs a mechanism to avoid repeating weapons, but I like it!

@Saltypatra

@Maxx, we don’t want to offer stop gap measures, and would prefer to implement a long term, final solution.

I am unsure of the efforts required to create a flash sale, but I believe that creating different flash sales could be the data you need to figure out the price points that you want to sell weapons at, figure out community appetite, etc. As you mentioned before, it needs to be worth it financially to devote development effort for a solution. Not sure if flash sales are cash-only, or if you can purchase things with gems in flash sales.

Regardless of your position on the flash sales, thank you so much for responding to this thread with such a detailed and heartfelt response.

Perhaps the real issue is this. @Cyrup
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Of the 231 weapons available in game. Maybe 10 of them are actually useful? Which causes a huge out cry when only 5/10 are available to players just starting the game today.
I honestly feel like the Doom (Doomskull creater) weapons were an amazing idea. The 6 are pretty much clones of each other. But with different Mana colors and released with enough time a part that any player that started 4 months ago could get at least one.
Right now there is a create a weapon contest.
So its not a big ask to request a monthly clone a weapon vote for the community. Give the players a selection of previously released Event weapons. Let them vote on it. Then release the weapon 1, 2, 3 months afterwards.
Say a clone of Earth Fury wins. The baseline of the weapon cast stays the same. The only difference is the Mana color and what kingdom it belongs to. (Just like the Doom weapons). No need to add extra code. Just bump whatever weapon was originally planned for that event week for the Earth Fury Clone. Let’s call it Uranus Fury to give the matter some levity.
Outside of whoever designs the art, and code for Uranus Fury. The rest of the team will be able to focus on 4.3…Meanwhile we are able to give hope to the players who feel like they can’t compete with the present day model. Yes contrarians, I realize that Tower of Doom can be done without Earth Fury. But those with Earth fury have way more success with it than those who don’t for the most part.
@Saltypatra you should know better than anyone that there are people who won’t be happy no matter what you do or say. I could probably be identified as one of them. But personally, I think I’m a very happy person. I’m just not here to give pats on the head or thumbs up to a staff that I’ve invested my own money into. This thread alone offers plenty of dev support. You don’t need it from me. I choose the role of pointing to where a fire is, thanking you when the fire is put out, and then pointing to the next one. With the ultimate goal of zero fires eventually. That goal is certainly attainable. For example, 3/4 of the month, Gems of War is 99% bug free! :grinning: The polar opposite of where GoW was a year ago at this time. So now that there isn’t huge fires like Impervious not working. We have small constant fires like the old weapons. An ancient issue made more relevant due to changes in the game.
New players aren’t able to have the same opportunity to succeed as players who started a year+ ago. That quickly changes from a collection issue to a retention issue. Why play a game where you are penalized for not having started playing a game a year prior?

Here’s what confuses your player base for the most part. You did this “stop gap solution” before.

Divine protector went on sale that week despite it not having anything to do with the event.

6 months later there hasn’t been a single resale like that. Yeah I’m sure people complained that it wasn’t free. It was $5. The cost of what GoW probably should be in the app store. I am happy that GoW tries to be F2P for the most part. But personally, it’s not worth those who are willing to pay being treated like the minority without a voice in the matter.
At one time a weapon was free, but if a player missed that window. And they want the weapon now, then they simply pay for it. If they don’t want it that badly. Then don’t buy it. Wait for the long term solution instead.
Choice is not a bad thing. But can’t be given unless the opportunity is made to the community.

I’m not in those meetings. I’m not a developer. I don’t know what’s planned for 4.3
What I do know is there’s an opportunity to generate revenue and appease your players at the same time right now. Yes, people will be unhappy no matter what you do. But there will certainly be less unhappy people than there currently is.

TL:DR…If I cut my arm, I don’t leave the wound open until the doctor has time to see me. I use a band aid that I already have in the home until I see a doctor.
A short term quick solution that is available. Is always a better option than a long term solution that is only a theory at this point.

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i mean im fine with there being noway to get all weapons…has nothing to do with me being 1 of 2 on pc lb that have them all :smiley:

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Well, I am not lying about it. Sadly, it’s been a while, so I don’t remember the exact source.
I really hope that we will get the Earth’s Fury in March 2019. I really want it. :slight_smile:

Exactly. Especially when we couldn’t even see any clue of the long term solution.

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Newbie here, started playing less than a month ago, like I do for every game I play, it arrives a certain moment I get kinda stuck in advancing, especially in f2p games, so I looked around for team i could make to improve myself, and like 90% of them involve weapons I can’t get.
Also being matched in pvp against people who have those weapons is pretty unfair, sometimes you just can’t win.
I spread the word about this game to my friends who started playing themselves GoW, I also already supported the game buying a couple packs on steam and I was planning to buy more in the in-game store but I gotta admit that finding out about this particular situation made me kinda regret the support I gave to the game and I dont know if I’m willing to continue anymore.
I don’t see any reason for not to place them in the forge or/and in the store, pls listen to the community devs, you made a very enjoyable game, don’t throw it away for nothing.

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