But consider that all feedback here is valuable to the devs if they are looking at new strategies to increase their revenue. If they are fine with 1000 people purchasing the 15 days Gems Deal i imagine it would be great if they also put another interesting deal/bundle of $5 for such type of customers. If another bundle would include Diamonds, Ingots and/or Orbs i can imagine them having a decent number of customers and making extra money to be used in projects for this and other games.
Right now the gems shop has some very basic deals, and most of them seems outdated.
Uh… that’s kind of how a budget works. A ton of people get paid weekly. Being paid $100/week for 4 weeks is ultimately the same as being paid $400 once every 4 weeks. If you can’t run your business on $5 or $6 per week, you can’t run it on $25-$30 per month.
Lunch analogy: I eat a lot of sandwiches for lunch. I could go to McDonald’s instead and get a Bacon McDouble for $2. I can do that 5 times and spend $10 and have 5 “treat days”. Or I can go to a local burger place and get a homemade bun with an organic, grass-fed bison patty.
In both cases I spent $10, but one represents “five little treats” and the other is “one really good treat”. It makes me happier to have “more, less significant treats” than “fewer, very significant treats”. No matter which treat I get, I’m hungry again in six hours. So the expensive one isn’t a very good proposition.
GoW is like the Louis Vuitton of F2P games. The things they put on the shelf are 30x and 50x more expensive than what most games charge. Since most of that is profit margin they don’t have to sell many to keep the doors open.
Louis Vuitton is successful, Forbes thinks the brand is worth $33 billion with $12.9 billion in sales. Wal-mart is also successful. Their market cap is $246.2 billion with $500 billion in sales.
So it’s possible to sell clothes that cost $10 and make at least 80x more money than a brand that sells clothes for 30x higher cost. It turns out more people have $10 than $300, and they need the clothes today, not “in several months after saving up”.
That’s my point. Right now the people who want to spend $5/month or less are numerous and they spend $0/month. They do not often save up their pennies and make a big purchase, and if they do it’s a one-time thing. Making $0/month is worse than making $1-$5/month, especially if you multiply it. If 500 people would spend $1/month, that’s $500/month that isn’t happening. Sure, that’s not a big bump. But it’s “money you aren’t getting”. I’d take an extra $500/month, especially if I had to spend maybe $50/month to make it.
Don’t really see a price in comfortable with. Current rate is $1 per 15 gems buying the 1500 gem pack. When weighed against the cost of purchasing 7 tiers in raid our invasion, it’s absurd. 1850 gems (~$125) is too much. You need double-digit tier 7 purchases to make a run at an orb of power each week. Yes, they can be saved up under certain “good guild” conditions, but are we going to pretend that Zuul Goth is worth $10,000 plus? Or can we just admit that the cost of gems is absurd, even with the cuts to rewards from LTs, Guild Wars (twice over with the change in frequency), and guild tasks?
None. This game is fun, at best, for short periods of time for FREE.
I can find a random flash game of a slot machine and click pay and have the same effect as I do from this. Nothing on this game is worth real currency. If you need further proof of that, check out Zuul, who the devs will happily sell for 10,000 US dollars.
They sell $5.00 packs, both a regular $5.00 gem pack, and a fifteen day $5.00 gem pack. Sounds more like people want a lot more gems, for a buck… I agree smaller packs might get more people to spend a $1.00, but in the end I doubt they would be happy with the $1.00 item for sale, because they want big packs for that $1.00, not 20 gems, more like 500 gems.
The gem prices are absurd
99.99 for 1,725 gems?? Omg it’s hysterical that ANYONE would buy that
That’s just so crazy to me that a single person could find that reasonable when you can spend that and literally end up with nothing(no mythics and few legendaries).
In order for me to buy gems the prices would have to be severely slashed. I’m more willing to spend amounts less than $20 for an amount that is fair. When it takes upwards of 10,000 gems to get a mythic… that would be hundreds and hundreds of dollars. It should instead, in this terrible free to play market, be $60 (you know, the price of a legitimate fully fleshed out AAA title game…)
Sooooo the gems would need to drastically increase per price point.
I guess the spirit of the question is tough for me. My gem income/week is hard for me to judge but I think I’m getting between 700 and 1,000 gems. So if I’ve previously admitted wanting to spend $5 or so in spurts, that’s kind of the minimum I expect to get.
I think that would actually break the game’s economy as-is. But “where I’m from”, as in “the games I played before I moved to GoW”, required about $9 of input to be able to participate minimally in a month’s events. For GoW to keep pace with them, I’d need a $10 pack of about 3,000 gems. That’s not happening. I don’t realistically expect to see that. The gem economy would have to change drastically in response and I think that’s a little crazy.
Which is why I spend my money on diamonds. They don’t directly correspond to the kinds of things I associate directly with progress, so I don’t have a good mental notion of how much my dollar exchanges for “time”. Well, I sort of do. In a week, I expect to get about what, 190 diamonds for free? On Sunday, I get 150 for $4.99. That’s not quite “a week” for $5, but it’s better than the “one day’s worth of tributes or treasure maps” gems trade for.
That’s really what I’m thinking about when I spend money on an F2P. “How much time would I have to spend farming to get this?” Ideally I want $5 to buy me 2 weeks. Again, that’s a ridiculous amount of gems.
I have bought Gems in the past, but only because a) I wanted to get up to VIP level 3 to get the free Scouting and b) I had money from birthday presents to spend.
This was when I was a lot lower level, now I’m Endgame, I doubt I’d ever pay for them again.
I would’ve voted on 1$ for 100 gems, that is around a 50 pull at gem chests. But that doesn’t guarantee any results, so I thought of 1$ for 400 gems, that is around a 50 pull at VIP chests. But that would firstly not guarantee anything either, it’s only some higher percentage chance and second - destroy the economy as stated somewhere above.
This leads to the question of what relation i see in purchasing gems at all, and that is none. I could use my saved gems and not get the monthly mythic or buy gems for X amount and not get it either.
I don’t think it’s accurate to call them useless. I think it’s more accurate to say that once your kingdoms are all at 20%+ tribute chances, the amount you’d be willing to pay for additional gems drops dramatically. And that the additional gem sinks that have been added are, generally, so expensive that the 15 gems for 15 days pack won’t let you keep up. Which goes back to @Slypenslyde’s point, that spending $10/month on this game as a new player still limits the content available to you.
I suppose I could have worded that a little better. I had literally just woken up when I typed that reply. I agree with you.
I use Gems of War Forums to help me wake up in the mornings. If I don’t get my brain running and thinking about something, I will just roll over and go back to sleep.
