AI Guilds now reward a score

It happened to everyone on ps5 funny how you forget and you lost to Nemesis that week also

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Just prefacing this by saying I don’t care about the leaderboard, other than that it affects what rewards players in my guild get, so I would be very unhappy with the devs changing something that screwed my guild over and reduced how much reward my guildmates got for their effort. And if they did that without telling anyone, without retroactively applying the change to past events, so that it only affects some guilds and not others, and I was not one of those guilds, I would be even more unhappy.
Either the change should have affected everyone, or no-one.
And yes, giving more points for beating a super-low rank dead/AI guild than for beating a super-high rank guild makes no sense at all. I agree with you that it should always have given some points, but you’re beating a training dummy, not an enemy warrior. Adjust the reward accordingly.

And I also agree that guild wars is supposed to be about wars between REAL guilds. Having a guild face off against AI guilds of no value for easy wins is pointless. Sure, for lower level guilds it’s great, since they get free rewards, and I can see you letting the lowest level guilds do it, to help build them up, but any guild on the top 100 leaderboard does not need that. They’re not warring against another guild, and they aren’t playing against other players. It’s totally against the entire point of the mode. If you can’t make the matchmaking work, suspend the mode and fix it. Don’t push AI guilds on high level guilds that keep telling you they don’t want them (again, I don’t care, but I know those guilds high up do).

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Strongly agree.

There’s a similar-but-different problem down at the mid-tier/casual end: Guild Wars is not as fun as it should be because so many of the battles are against AI seatfillers. A lot of guilds down here have only a few players actively participating in Guild Wars; the rest of their defense slots get filled by AI teams. The result is that we end up fighting a lot of boring sentinel battles and only a few actually-challenging battles against human teams.

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en el anterior guerra de gremio que por escandalo era mejor , todos sabiamos como bajamos y subiamos y las reglas eran claras , los 2 primeros subian y los 2 ultimos bajan dependiendo la cantidad de puntos , cuanto mas subias necesitabas mas puntos por ende mas jugadores en tu caln y aqui te ponen una IA que horror por dios, aqui que es que ni siquiera sabemos el por que subimos o bajamos y no se esta fomentando a que los gremios tengan mas jugadores , por el pesimo estado del juego los jugadores se van , yo soy de playstation y dare un ejemplo el gremio IMPARABLES era uno de los mejores gremios latinos siempre estaba en los primeros bracket , hoy en dia son 16 JUGADORES asi hay muchos gremios no solo eso sino gremios muertos, da mucha rabia ver como destruyeron el juego , si los devs no se dan cuenta el juego morira antes de tiempo. ESCUCHEN A LOS JUGADORES @jeto

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I just have a small update on this.

The team are going to adjust the score giving/ELO worth from defeating face AI Guilds. This won’t be able to be pushed out during this current event, so it would go out before the next event.

I am now currently waiting to get any information on what is possible for the past Guild Wars event, since the no score bug was fixed, in any capacity. Can the leaderboard and score be retroactively adjusted to reflect the changes, if that’s not possible is there compensation.. etc.

That’s the entirety of the information I have currently.

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The irony

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Thank you jeto and I hope the team comes to the best decision for us all.

I want to apologize for getting so burnt up the other day and that I have slept on things and cooled down since, therefore I’ll stick out playing and not retire.

I have faith in the dev team that you’ll figure this out and take care of us in the best possible manner. Sometimes issues can’t be fixed overnight and take time. I understand that.

Thank you

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I really appreciate that, and like I said, I totally understand the frustrations.

Fingers crossed I can share an update soon and that the resolution is appropriate.

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4 top 20 guilds and only got 20 points total while an AI guild gives you 19 is ridiculous

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Bot guild 18 now for some reason went down a point. But yeah pairing us up with rank 40 is just brutal on them.
I think we need to bring back brackets

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Is this even random or how does it pick who plays who each day?

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For all my years on this forum I don’t remember seeing someone coming back and owning up after getting heated. Good on you man!

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Still no update on the situation with GW’S starting next week?

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I am raising it again this mornign in our meeting, cos no one has gotten back to me with any update

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I don’t know how it so hard to adjust the guilds scores that got the huge points from AI guilds, when you had the mail bug people collected to get 60,000 gems you were able to fix that and remove everyones extra gems collected and ban people that spent the gems in a couple days in the past, fixed the broken palooza the same day

Devs can fix anything in a matter of hours that affect your bottom line or in a negative way, but when it affects the players negativity it gets dragged on for months or never gets resolved

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Hi. Please can you pass this on to the devs: any guilds that have faced an AI opponent guild in the last 2 GW and got a ridiculous amount of points for doing so need to have their points reduced. Not all guilds have been so lucky, it has created an unfair change/advantage for certain guilds but not others.

Thanks :smiley:

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Just wipe the whole thing for another year and come back with a better version. Please.

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Current plan: The team are looking into rebalancing the data around AI Guild Wars opponents. They aren’t able to get out in time for the upcoming Guild Wars next week.

Or at least, at this stage, I cannot see the devs having any time to get that tested and out before the weekend or before the matchmaking data is processed. Especially as I am waiting for that conversation to progress to get confirmation that THIS is actually happening.

This change would mean that AI Guilds would actually more closely match their opponents in their bracket, so they aren’t just a free win. Also, validating the score they will give when defeated.

Only once THAT has been confirmed/completed, will I get any information about the past Guild War events and Guilds that did get an over-inflated score from defeating the previously very easy AI Guilds.

End solution (TBC): The team is planning on adjusting all the brackets so that only the lowest bracket Guilds could face an AI Guild. Which would have to be after 9.1 releases, mid Feb.

As for this..

This is not a suitable comparison at all. Completely different tasks, different programming, and it’s much easier to run code to grab all accounts that receieved a specific item of mail, with a specific resource and remove that.
It is the reverse of when we comp specific players affected by bugs that cause them to not receieve a reward for a specific event. We find the event code, check for anyone who didn’t get the specific reward for completeing that logged data, then resend out the rewards.

You can’t just go in and “adjust” every Guild’s score. Hundreds to thousands of Guilds, each facing 4 different opponents, each with their own ELO score, then trying to parse which of those Guild’s did face an AI Guild, in which bracket, what the exact appropriate score is for that time, their placement in the leaderboard etc.
Then, how that affects the week after, any leaderboard movement that Guild would have gotten, how that affects Guilds in the leaderboard that didn’t face an AI Guild due to these “adjusted” score, do THAT all over again for the new ELO score etc, and again for the 3rd week.
Across every platform.

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I’m confused as to why anymore than 3 AI guilds even exist in guild wars.

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Why would an Al guild be in the top bracket to begin with make it make since.

It’s definitely happening Screenshots have been shown of them getting 18 and 19 points for AI guild

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