I am not that deep into the general community, that I could remember names, but I remember not that long ago a seemingly popular beta test member, who provided the players with regular advance info about campaigns, incoming troops and stuff, stopping there out of frustration.
The reactions from the playerbase sounded significantly more thankful than yours.
And of course they are unpaid. I remember my surprise, that they even have to play with a limited amount of ressources.
No reroll in Campaign - no money from me. Easy as that. So the last Event where I put money in died.
So sad Devs totally lost connection to their own game. Not a new thing but every new patch is a new proof.
Every campaign every task i reroll.
Now we all have to do that task hunting for a gnome.
Or pay gems wtf.
Same for me on IOS - except for Spike the pet - he did get fixed. Whoopeee
No new ideas. Just more randomization and more monetization.
They should have freezed the game like it was about 2 years ago and just give us new cards every now and then.
I’m salty and I know it. But what happens with the game is getting absurd.
Beta testers have no chance to influence anything. No need to hate on them, it’s not their fault.
I did one beta and it was extremely frustrating.
Everyone tried their best but the features are locked in and only minimal changes are made.
You’re confusing a beta with an alpha.
This game needs alpha testing.
Beta tracks down bugs and devs try to fix them.
Alpha would be when they test new modes with the explicit intention of adjusting things.
They do the alpha in-house but since no one there really plays their own game, they simply have no idea.
Ok cheers scale.
Il stop hating on the Beta.
For Hawx and Gary - now only Gary - investing their time and energy into making resources for the game like the discord bot, campaign task overview (probably now mostly irrelevant), event scoring and best strategy advice… You know, actually doing something for the community.
Try doing a beta test and then come back here and tell me how it went.
BTW beta testers are not allowed to talk about the beta so they have to be careful with what they say about things.
Awesome!
Focus hating on those who are responsible for this mess - devs and probably the people who force them to release new content so often that they don’t even have time to consider what they’re actually doing to the game. 
(Only saw your reply after my 2nd reply so disregard the part about doing the beta. Don’t tdo that to yourself unless you want to be even more frustrated about updates.)
This is the one point im hearing.
Beta testers arnt allowed to talk.
As there unpaid volunteers, and thus isnt classed as an official secrecy act.
Then im assuming if they talk, they wont be jailed or killed.
So can we drop the arnt allowed to talk part.
Because worst that can happen is, there dropped as beta testers and cant tell there friends no more.
Not a big deal. In real life.
It’s usually worse than just not being allowed to be a beta tester again.
You basically sign some form of contract - can’t remember the specifics for gems anymore - and if you break the contract, there’d be penalties (with another company I specifically recall a steep fine).
Usually the ban is lifted after the release it with how little people speak about betas this may not be the case here.
I forgot most of it so sorry if I can’t give you any more details. But I can tell you that even if there’s no payment, if you sign a contract even if there’s no payment involved, it’s still binding.
People would also risk the existence of any beta at all so we’d have even more bugs and even less influence than the tiny bit the beta testers have.
This. 100% agreed.
Id take the fine.
Itll be in gems or dragonite anyway 
Sigh. Not even the help article on the new trials is working.
Clicking the ‘?’ in-game in the trial window takes you to https://gemsofwar.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/6753688781583
Which says you need authorisation to access.
Nah, more like real world money.
Not sure what the penalties are in gems but I’d not risk $20k or some stuff like that to blabber about something I can’t change anyway.
I haven’t been in the Beta for a while, maybe a year or two, but there was no such contract when I joined. I’ve never heard anything about a legally binding contract for this game. Wouldn’t really advise taking advantage of that though.
I’m overall pretty happy with this update with a vague sense of distrust There are quite a few changes which the community has wanted for a long time which are worth acknowledging. The Trials seem to be the most controversial part of the update, which is fair. From my perspective as a long-time player though, they don’t particularly bug me or effect me. They don’t change the fact that my Challenges are completed, which is nice. The Elite Trials offer optional bonus content if I choose to engage with them.
For early game players I can see a case for disliking them, but I’m also not opposed to difficult content such as Pure Delves or rough Trials. A lot of this game is mindless and easy, so some challenges are okay in my eyes.
I may not be in the majority in terms of Forum Folk opinion here, but thought I’d share my two cents.
It’s updates like this that convinces me to never, ever, ever give them a single penny of my money.
And a quick way to help avoid a complete cluster-frag like this? Pay your testers.
What people pay for, they value. What people get for free, they take for granted and soon expect as a right.
Of course, bug testing, customer feedback, actually playing the game you Lord over… those would all help as well.
Maybe gems only has a “please don’t” list. It’s been too long since I did it.
I know other games have contracts and fines and all those shenanigans. I may have mixed that up a little but I am pretty sure there’s an agreement of some sort. Can’t imagine there being nothing. Like a terms of service - along the lines of ‘if you go ahead with the beta you may not do xyz’.
Not sure about possible repercussions but I also never wanted to risk anything just to alert players a few weeks ahead of the inevitable.
Thankyou for clarification on being a beta tester.
You can say what you want thankyou, stops all the bs from others.
Ok my only question is, these teams people are mentioning the dragon claw and khetar tesms.
Theres a difference between a difficult mode and an impossible to do mode.
So will you clarify and confirm.
That beating these kingdoms in hardest mode.
With the set teams.
Is doable and youve done it.
