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505 Acquires Infinity+2 & Gems of War (Read about what this means for you)

One step closer to being saved by Microsoft.
Come on daddy Spencer. :pray:

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@XLS78, yes, there has always been a revenue split. Also, the revenue for Infinity+2 isn’t solely from Gems of War.

So the idea of running a crowdfunding campaign to allow IP2 to publish GoW independently is kind of moot at this point? :sweat_smile:

I am hoping we won’t see more ‘stock-standard’ gacha monetisation features (the lack of which many like myself were drawn to), but Steve has talked before about the stability benefits of the gacha model, which only seems to have been manifesting further with what seems like increased 505 influence, and this realistically only affirms it more:

I really do hope that

really does come to fruition, although I haven’t necessarily been impressed so far with improvements able to be made in the wake of the existing increased gacha stability/monetisation. Maybe the acquisition will remove some barriers that might have hindered this – I guess we’ll see :slightly_smiling_face: :confused: ¯_(ツ)_/¯


I personally would like to see, crossover events. Like characters from Bloodstained or Control be featured in Gems of War. Idk if 505 actually owns the license on those franchises or being the publisher of the games just makes it easier. But it would be cool if it means things like that can be easily done now.

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@Saltypatra doesn’t know what revenue is? Lol

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I don’t see this as a good thing. Name a game studio bought out by a publisher that decided to acknowledge the players wants and needs afterwards.

All we are going to get are hard deadlines which lead to unfinished content and bugs.

More monetized content to stay profitable, which will then lead to staff cuts when those profits aren’t made.

Get your wallets ready or pack your bags.


Is Pipeworks going to regain any control related to the game as a result of this sale?

Just gonna have to see what happens with the next major update or two. As far as I’m concerned this changes literally nothing and that is not good because we need things to change.


@VegaDark541 this is highly unlikely. We will be handling all the current development aspects of Gems of War, and may even grab some more in future. I doubt Pipeworks will be involved again.

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While it is indeed likely that this will magnify the regrettable direction the game has taken in the past couple of years, it does add an iota of a chance that someone higher up within 505 with empathy for the playerbase (and the monetisation opportunities arising from people spending because they are having Fun) may become more involved and help fix the direction, even if it is a little, so we never see things like e.g. shrines being released again…

…assuming such a person exists in 505…
:crossed_fingers: :relaxed: :vulcan_salute:

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Welcome new 505 overlords. Can you remove the bugged exclamation marks, and remove having to grind for the privilege of paying? If so this paying customer will sacrifice anything you desire.

I do wonder if the game update priorities will change. Will it improve, worsen, or stay the same?

On a different note, hope everything goes well for @Saltypatra and the rest of the team. Acquisitions do not always go smoothly.

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The “new” overlords are the reason those things existed already. (99% sure)
505 games has published Gems of War from the very start. And as years have gone on. And more money was needed by Infinity Plus 2. 505 Games took more and more of an influence over the direction of the game.
Like I indicated above. This announcement is really just making public a relationship that’s already existed for years anyway. They just made it “forums official”.

And now Salty and I can’t have pointless debates about what staff members work for what company. Because every Infinity Plus 2 member (Even Sirrian) now bends the knee to 505 Games.




Hopefully this ending has a happier resolution.


Honestly the fact that Game of Thrones was such an integral part in the cultural zeitgeist for so long and has now completely disappeared after an abysmal ending is both social phenomenon and horrible tragedy.


I finally watched the final season last summer. Somehow I made it that long without any spoilers. It was so bad no one cares to talk about it.

Trump and Covid-19 would/could do that to any show. It never stood a chance.
Maybe you’re right and it’s the ending that killed the buzz about it. But I think people just had too much reality to talk about so fantasy stuff wasn’t much of a discussion anymore. And that was a big part of the appeal of GoT.

We’ll see though. The books aren’t done and their still working on spin offs for future series. Given the success of the Witcher on Netflix. The audience for sex, violence, and monsters (plus good writing I guess) is still there.

For me it’s definitely this, and I think it’s true for most people I’ve talked to.

And it’s not even about the outcomes, for us, but rather the implementation. Like, no spoilers, but — I’d have personally been fine with every death that happened, and every rise to power that happened, but the way that everything happened felt so lazy, so uninspired and uncompelling given the setup, that I don’t see how anyone could look at the finale as anything but a disappointment.


I mean, just to spitball a few notes: Dany still goes cuckoo bad ma’ama jamma, but is actually given lines to demonstrate the character progression or gasp a moment where the sudden snap makes sense, maybe thanks to a flashback or an arrow shot into her last dragon, or a random coin getting flipped akin to the adage, or whatever. And Bran can be king of Westeros, sure — WHEN IT IS SUDDENLY REVEALED HE IMS A BAD GUY WHO DOESN’T AFRAID OF NOBODY AND IS WILLING TO WARG THE LEADERS OF ALL THE REALM AT ONCE WHILE THEY PARLAY, MUAHAHAHAHA ahem, cough, ahem-harumph. Maybe the battle with the Night King actually lasts a long time because, ya know, these wights were the stuff of legend and numbered in the tens of thousands (at least) and were magic and - well - were supposedly the entire fuggin’ point of the entire fuggin’ narrative misdirection of the “game of thrones” the entire fuggin’ time. Or they WIN. If they DON’T, maybz because Bran decides he doesn’t need to use the dead-heads anymore to get what he wants CAUSE HE WAS WARGIN’ THEM THE WHOLE TIME AND IS ACTUALLY BLOODRAVEN THE TARGARYEN cough cough COUGH. And perhaps more people should have died because GoT is supposed to kill people and why bother having momentous battles where no one important dies? And other quibbles I’m sure no one’s read this far to read because who cares what this disgruntled orc thinks, anyway :joy:


I saw it as “Hey the writers have to write something that George R. R. Martin definitely won’t be doing with the books.” So we basically saw an alternate universe of how the story will actually play out. And in 5-10 years. They will totally redo the last episodes and “Luke Skywalker” all the original cast members back to shoot the true ending. (dead or alive, CGI don’t care, and neither will our morals during Trump’s 3rd term. :slightly_smiling_face:)

Land mines a plenty ladies and gents so reply under caution to avoid spoilers because I certainly did unless you have already watched what I talked about.


I sure hope so!

I’ve been waiting so long to read Winds of Winter I’m going to have to re-read all the preceding tomes, and the joke’s gonna be on me in the end because whatever the actually-final book that’s supposed to come out after that won’t be finished before the guy dies, I fear :joy:

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