I come bearing Math. It is I, the Architect of Walls of Text. … no I don’t want that to be my forum title.
[quote=“Sirrian, post:256, topic:11984”]
2. Can we get a better sense of the reduction in resources in terms of Gems and Glory Keys
Yes - very happy to share the entire amount of stuff you can now net in a single week from your guild[/quote]
I’m going to try to break this down… bear in mind this is (mainly) for the higher/top guilds, its been made clear that whatever it is will be a win for everyone else.
The TL;DR is that we’re losing some value but getting it back in a lot of other places. Also its hard to match up some of the new gains since they’re tied to personal activity. Oh and Sirrian’s math is almost completely right.
Also, as for Gold, we’ve been complaining about Minor Traitstones (and Commons too) for ages, and now we can focus on getting those back again! If only because we’ll have nothing else to do with the Gold. But if you spend enough Gold Keys you start piling up a decent amount of Glory and Gems too, don’t forget.
Conversions
There are some exchange rates in-game that I can use, but it’s not exactly the same as knowing their real worth.
Based on kingdom tributes (with max stars), we know the 100% Gold is 500 (Khaziel), 100% Glory is 20 (Whitehelm), and 100% Souls is 80 (Khetar). This indicates (hazily) that there is an exchange rate of 25 Gold = 1 Glory = 4 Souls.
We also know that we can use 240 Gems to purchase 30,000 Gold, which is a ratio of 125 Gold = 1 Gem.
So if I scale up the previous results, we have:
125 Gold = 20 Souls = 5 Glory = 1 Gem
New System
(which we’re getting, that’s happening)
590 Gems = 590 Gems
42 Event Keys at 15 Gems each = 630 Gems
320 Glory = 64 Gems
64 Gem Keys at 10 Gems each = 640 Gems
236 Glory Keys at 20 Glory each = 4720 Glory = 944 Gems
5900 Souls = 295 Gems
2200 Gold Keys at 300 Gold each = 5280 Gems
9 Maps at 30 Glory each = 270 Glory = 54 Gems
TOTAL = worth 8497 Gems
I missed a couple of those on my first pass… I was going to go through the whole list first but that number has me fixed. Lets compare now.
Old System
(here meaning ‘current’)
Its been said we can only put 16 million gold in per week per guild. That’s a figure I can use.
If a guild only does Gems / Glory Keys / 7-Token tasks (which is most of us I believe), then we can calculate what we’re getting.
38,000 + 36,000 + 11,000 = 85,000 per set of three tasks. (85,000 = 10 Gems and 12 Glory Keys)
16,000,000 / 85,000 = 188.235 sets of three tasks
188 x 10 = 1880 Gems
188 x 12 = 2256 Glory Keys - at 20 Glory each, = 45,120 Glory = 9024 Gems
TOTAL = worth 10,904 Gems for the same price.
(those numbers aren’t BS, the ratio matches up with what we tend to get in a given week)
8497 is 77.926% of 10904. So clearly we’re going to get less (and I’m even counting Souls in my totals) but that’s what we’ve been told. In fact, my math (now that I’ve worked out the kinks) more or less matches what Sirrian told us: -23%. This result is, in fact, slightly better for us.
The rest of his list isn’t anywhere as easy to quantify, but it mostly helps us.
SEALS: 75 Guild Keys
… really can’t tell with these yet. Assume they’re good.
STATUE BONUSES: +50% XP, +6 Map Turns, +6% Tribute Chance, +10% Tribute Amount, +50% Souls, +2 Glory per PvP Battle
All of these are largely based on personal activity, so your mileage may vary (as they say).
+50% XP: depends on how useful leveling is after 1000, we don’t really know enough yet.
+6 Map Turns: anyone who’s done a few dozen/hundred maps knows that starting with more turns won’t actually have a huge impact. Plus we’re still having issues with efficiency.
+6% Tribute Chance: now this I can quantify, sort of. Its good however it is - right now we have 10% x 2 per kingdom… given the tiny number of 6%, I can only assume this is 6% each. That adds up. If its (10x2)+6, that’s a gain of 30%. If its (10+6)x2, that’s a gain of 60% from tributes. Seeing as tributes get all resources, but prominently get Glory, Gems and Gold Keys, this is impossible to ignore.
+10% Tribute Amount: probably means what it says. But this wouldn’t translate to Gems and Gold Keys.
+50% Souls: just argh…
+2 Glory per battle: even on a 9 Glory battle, that’s still a gain of almost 20%, and most battles aren’t 9s. Base of hardest difficulty is at 4, where its a 50% gain.
SKILL BONUS (7d): +8 Armor, +8 Life, +3 Attack, +2 Magic
… as people have said already, if everyone in the top guilds is vsing other top guilds, this doesn’t mean a thing.
NEW LEAGUES: Extra Gold Bonus
… Gold is Gold. Probably doesn’t mean much either, but without the numbers we can’t tell.
Lose some, get some, its not the end of the world? Probably?