# Would Kraken still be meta without devour? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [October 3, 2017, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/would-kraken-still-be-meta-without-devour/31152 "2017-10-03T20:23:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 80
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/would-kraken-still-be-meta-without-devour/31152/80 "2017-10-11T13:23:56Z")
> [@Kraken-Forest Troll-Mab-Kraken defense teams...anyone find any good counters?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kraken-forest-troll-mab-kraken-defense-teams-anyone-find-any-good-counters/30586/27): > > I have been having pretty good luck with Krystenax/Krystenax/Dragon Soul/Elemaugrim I have lost around 5 or 6 battles out of 200 against that team this week. Krystenax must be full traited because you are taking it’s colours off the board and Elemaugrim must have the impervious trait. The only time I cast Elemaugrim is when it will kill both Krakens because if it misses it can fill Krakens but if it’s only Mab it’s fine because she can’t do anything to Ele or Dragon Soul. I also never take skull… @Jainus @Courtaud --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/would-kraken-still-be-meta-without-devour/31152)._