# Wisp counters needed
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [September 23, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654 "2017-09-23T13:08:32Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 6
### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2017, 12:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/102 "2017-10-02T12:29:32Z")
Excellent idea of things that should be added to wisp! I would also make it all 6 colors!
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### Author:  [@Mariana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mariana)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/103 "2017-10-02T15:07:20Z")
I have a about a 90% win rate with it, Mab or not
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### Author:  [@JuaitoR](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JuaitoR)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/104 "2017-10-02T17:52:06Z")
Freeze.
That is all.
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### Author:  [@Svaldan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Svaldan)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/105 "2017-10-02T22:25:14Z")
Oh they are stealthy, but one of the Wisps is always at the front. Match a skull and Psion drains the Wisp in front, filling up its drain ability halfway. If you have alignment you can cast Mercy to fill up Famine a bit. If you can’t match a skull, and don’t have alignment on purple/yellow, you can drain the first Wisp with Spirit Fox. I used Famine to kill the Krystenax/Kraken first, then Mab, then Wisps. It won’t always work, your opponent can still cascade into mana for the Wisps and go off, but eh, it’s an option that wasn’t really mentioned yet, and so far I did win my battles against the Wisps when I tried out this build.
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### Author:  [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/106 "2017-10-02T22:43:27Z")
> [@Svaldan](#):
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> you can drain the first Wisp with Spirit Fox
How do you drain a stealthy Wisp with Spirit Fox?
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### Author:  [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/107 "2017-10-02T22:53:50Z")
You stun with korvash then you drain that b\*\*\*\*
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### Author:  [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/108 "2017-10-02T23:05:44Z")
The team he’s talking about doesn’t have Khorvash. It’s Psion, Mercy, Famine, Spirit Fox. I’ve got no problem with the overall strategy, but the only troops you’d be targeting with Spirit Fox are Mab or Krystenax.
Also, if you hit the Wisps with Khorvash, they’d already have no mana, so you wouldn’t need to drain them again.
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### Author:  [@Svaldan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Svaldan)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/110 "2017-10-03T15:18:30Z")
Oh wow, that was a major brainfart. Obviously you can’t target a Wisp with Spirit Fox until the Mab and Krystenax/Kraken are dead 😳 Can’t believe I didn’t catch that during my games. Probably because I always had a skull to match or purples to convert to yellow?
Anyway, since Spirit Fox is useless for the purpose I put it in the deck for, maybe you could swap in Astral Spirit or Soothsayer instead to prevent your opponent’s Wisps from matching purple? Haven’t tried that though, so this is just theorycrafting.
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### Author:  [@EmsDad15](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EmsDad15)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2017, 9:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/111 "2017-10-04T09:14:34Z")
I’ve had success with Krys x3 and TDS. But them lil buggers are stil annoying as all.
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### Author:  [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2017, 12:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/112 "2017-10-04T12:09:55Z")
Against wisp and kraken teams, I find that Gorgotha, Krystenax, TDS and Mab does the job well.
I do use TDS to explode - even against FT/kraken teams - as long as key colours are frozen by Mab.
I don’t always choose green with Max, it depends how full and frozen the opponent is. If they’re all frozen I usually choose the colour for maximum damage. If TDS is full then I choose yellow or brown to maximise the next explode.
I put this team together after reading the comments above about how effective dragons are/aren’t against these teams. I’ve just had a 50 match win streak (still unbroken), always picking the 3 trophy match and always using this team against those meta teams. I estimate that about 40 (edit: 40/50, not 40%!) of those battles included wisp, kraken, or both.
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### Author:  [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/113 "2017-10-04T12:55:40Z")
I’ve enjoyed using double Keghammer. Should remove the Troll right at the start.
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### Author:  [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/114 "2017-10-04T15:08:59Z")
> [@Whiskeyjack](#):
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> Against wisp and kraken teams, I find that Gorgotha, Krystenax, TDS and Mab does the job well.
What is Gorgotha for? Just tank, or exploding too?
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### Author:  [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/115 "2017-10-04T15:10:57Z")
Mainly to stay alive if wisp jumbles result in a lot of skull cascades. He’s also good against psion, as you can ignore skulls while you fill TDS and Krystenax as they don’t share any colours.
You could use Krystenax in first place, rely on stoneskin, and put someone impervious at the bottom to help stop kraken, but I find nax can be squishy especially against true damage dealers.
Edit: I don’t have Elemaugrim, but if I did I could probably lose gorgotha and put Ele in at the bottom instead.
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### Author:  [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/116 "2017-10-04T15:15:04Z")
> [@Whiskeyjack](#):
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> Mainly to stay alive if wisp jumbles result in a lot of skull cascades. He’s also good against psion, as you can ignore skulls while you fill TDS and Krystenax as they don’t share any colours.
Thank you, I’m going to try it :)😀
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### Author:  [@Elarcadia](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elarcadia)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/117 "2017-10-04T15:21:37Z")
In all honesty, whenever I came against a Wisp/Wisp/Krystenax/Mab or a Kraken/Troll/Kraken/Mab team, I just use the same team against them. It works 90% of the time. Once in a while I will also pull out my Kraken/Alchemist/Hellcat/Kraken team as well, just depends on what color day I am working with.
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### Author:  [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/118 "2017-10-04T16:10:19Z")
> [@Whiskeyjack](#):
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> Edit: I don’t have Elemaugrim, but if I did I could probably lose gorgotha and put Ele in at the bottom instead.
Tried your team, it works great!
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### Author:  [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/119 "2017-10-04T16:38:08Z")
Thanks, glad it works for you too 😀
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### Author:  [@Pantenkind](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pantenkind)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/120 "2017-10-05T01:59:14Z")
Mercy is better in the last slot
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### Author:  [@Taisiakat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taisiakat)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/121 "2017-10-13T02:17:43Z")
> [@Eika](#):
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> X
> Mab
> Valk
> Mab
Alas it hasn’t worked for me. Is there some strategy I should be doing specifically?
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### Author:  [@Taisiakat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taisiakat)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/122 "2017-10-13T02:26:21Z")
So you know what’s more disgusting than 2 wisps — 3 wisps.
Round and round and round they went. ☹
They have become the team I hate the most. Famine I have figured out how to actually beat 50% of the time now. But WISPS… gah
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