# Wisp counters needed **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [September 23, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654 "2017-09-23T13:08:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/1 "2017-09-23T13:08:32Z")
So, apparently there are a number of players that have no problems beating Wisp teams So Wisp-Wisp-Krystenax-Mab and Wisp-Wisp-Kraken-Mab causes no problems whatsoever for them > [@Devs, enough is enough, Communicate!](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/198): > > Wisp…is sooo wispy…I had a few outbursts playing against wisp. But it has been pleasingly fun figuring out how to dismantle this BS troop. So go ahead and add a third to the list of players who have no problem putting Wisp out of my wispy misery. I’d love to hear about your strategies @eika @vangor @EmsDad15 'cause I will freely admit it: WIsp causes me serious problems. I can only beat those 2 teams I mentioned above 60-70% of the time, and I do need luck to do that. Please enlighten me on how to beat Wisp teams 90-95% of the time and I’ll happily join your chorus of players that don’t see any need to nerf Wisp ! ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/2 "2017-09-23T13:10:16Z")
It is not my problems that some of you wont accept other players experiences/opinions. Have fun! [http://img30.laughinggif.com/pic/HTTPS9tZWRpYS5naXBoeS5jb20vbWVkaWEveDZGZFpaZ1hrc1pIeS9naXBoeS5naWYlog.gif](http://img30.laughinggif.com/pic/HTTPS9tZWRpYS5naXBoeS5jb20vbWVkaWEveDZGZFpaZ1hrc1pIeS9naXBoeS5naWYlog.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/3 "2017-09-23T13:11:23Z")
So you won’t share your strategies on beating Wisp easily every time? Would that be 'cause you just don’t have any? ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/4 "2017-09-23T13:12:09Z")
So no counter-strategy except for “I win against Wisp all the time”? ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/5 "2017-09-23T13:12:30Z")
I’m genuinely looking for strategies to better combat the increasing Wisp infestation that I see in PVP 'cause that infestation is really ruining my fun in GoW… ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/6 "2017-09-23T13:17:22Z")
> [@Darkness](#): > > I’m genuinely looking for strategies to better combat the increasing Wisp infestation that I see in PVP 'cause that infestation is really ruining my fun in GoW… So far, I haven’t lost to Wisp 2x in PVP with the following team: Gorgotha Borealis Famine The Dragon Soul (Desert Banner) (That said, Wisp is obviously unbalanced for its mana cost and rarity. 😛 ) ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/7 "2017-09-23T13:17:30Z")
[http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/202?u=vangor](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/202) Just in case you missed it @Darkness ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/8 "2017-09-23T13:22:12Z")
There is many teams to use. Another good one is X Mab Valk Mab _Lion Banner_ X can be soothsayer/Sylvanimora/Kraken whichever one you prefer. ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/10 "2017-09-23T13:27:58Z")
Thanks all. I’ll try those options. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/11 "2017-09-23T13:28:35Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/a/9ac36818880094d6d92cbcc5cf167a92177d70b1.jpg) Another one, which is focusing on eliminate the opponent team fast, mainly with skulls/high attack. Since Wisp is often in 1st and 2nd position this team is like knife in soft butter. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/12 "2017-09-23T13:29:40Z")
Ok @Darkness you want my strategy? Here it goes… Abyssal banner Shiny Shiny TDS Salad When you are playing this team rush purple mana to fill TDS and enchant both shinys. Once you have multiple dragons full look for the color you can remove with shiny to give yourself an extra turn. Multiple casts from those 4 dragons in one turn will demolish anything including wisps Hope this helps and causes you to stop calling me a troll ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/13 "2017-09-23T13:37:24Z")
We are talking about that (@Saltypatra I summon you 🙂 ): First screen just before the 1st Wisp cast (turn 2 or 3): ![s1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/2/b2a930fd09d95938b5846c08f8d0510b5f6330c0.jpg) After the 2xwisp casts: yeah AI takes the 4-purple, Wisp full and cast again: ![s2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/e/2e971387d8192b78b06be573cb456bad80a8b02b.jpg) After this Wisp’s cast: yeah it takes the 4-blue, Krys’s full, Krys cast ![s3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/4/74b00348c7afc47b296e8c264625e625dddb18b6.jpg) After Krys’s cast: thanks to cascade the two Wisp are full again… ![s4](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/e/eee00e1f6f90b1ca5e40dfe199176ef1a6118c7b.jpg) After the two Wisp’s cast: yeah I can play… ![s5](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/1/91ca4f4c9356a55482127afa5143ffa0cb301135.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/14 "2017-09-23T13:48:42Z")
@Eika : I tried your annointed one team. It worked well, with the half mana for all troops due to traits, but it’s still just a race to fill up any troop before Wisp gets a quick 3 match of red or purple. I’ll keep using it against those Wisp teams to see how it does long term, but thanks for the suggestion! I felt more in control with this team against the Wisps than with any of the other teams I tried (for some reason Mab just doesn’t work well with freezing when I use her. She either always freezes Krystenax or Kraken or the Wisps lose the frozen after 1 or 2 turns)… ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/15 "2017-09-23T13:51:00Z")
@Darkness did you try my suggestion? ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/16 "2017-09-23T13:54:48Z")
Not yet. Running with @Eika’s suggestion first as that one has troops I’ve already used before. I felt that the familiarity with the troops (it always takes me a bit of time to figure out how to play a troop best) would give me a better chance at success. I’m going to go with @Eika’s suggestion for a while to see how it fares long term. But I’ll definately also try the other suggestions in this topic. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/17 "2017-09-23T13:56:05Z")
> [@Darkness](#): > > But I’ll definately also try the other suggestions in this topic Including mine? ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/18 "2017-09-23T13:58:31Z")
Why wouldn’t I? If it gives me a better chance to beat Wisp then why wouldn’t I use it? I just tried @Eika’s first because of the familiarity with the troops. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/19 "2017-09-23T14:02:47Z")
> [@Darkness](#): > > Why wouldn’t I? Because you want me banned and i am sure it would burn you real good to have to admit i was right (which i doubt you would do anyway) Thats why… Maybe i am wrong but i dont think you expected me to _actually_ tell you how i beat wisps ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/20 "2017-09-23T14:07:20Z")
Why would I ask for suggestions to counter Wisp and then refuse to use them? Doesn’t that seem rather counterproductive to you? I will admit that I am surprised that you actually posted the team that you use to beat Wisp, considering the rather antagonistic feelings you seem to have towards me (If I recall correctly you do consider me to be one of the bullies that is harassing you all the time about your opinions and you’ve specifically called me out on that in the past). So yes, your willingness to post a potentially helpful suggestion surprised me a lot. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jeno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeno/32/20235_2.png) [@jeno](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jeno)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654/21 "2017-09-23T14:11:22Z")
i have 2 counter that effective: 1. “Retreat” button. 2. Scout and ignore. i prefer second choice. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654.md?page=2)