# \[WIP\] Daily Deals - Discussion and Critique

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\
**Created:** [April 29, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105 "2020-04-29T03:15:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/81 "2020-05-07T20:27:50Z")

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They should add the doomed weapon forge scrolls to the mix if they want to increase the buy rate. Likely nearly everyone needs/wants those.

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**Author:** ![Redi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redi1/32/63215_2.png) [@Redi1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Redi1)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/82 "2020-05-07T20:29:26Z")

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> [@Lorien1973](#):
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> They should add the doomed weapon forge scrolls to the mix if they want to increase the buy rate. Likely nearly everyone needs/wants those.

Is it possible to like this 30 times or do I need to make a new account for each one? 🙂

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/83 "2020-05-07T20:33:17Z")

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> [@xolid99](#):
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> I’ve got 2 former raid or invasion bosses that are legendary, I’ve had those twice each I think, but with insufficient copies to advance to mythic! So it’s never going to get taken up.

3 copies for 120 gems is cheaper than when they were the weekly event troop, and you will keep getting that offer until you mythic them. I love this offer and think it’s great.

I had 6 bounty and 14 tower/god killers not at mythic. It’s a gem saving strategy.  
Opened 60k gold chests to get all the bounty troops mythic. Used 4 minor blue orbs to ascend tower/god killers that were legendary and less than 5 copies.  
I have 6 tower/god killers at legendary that will take a total of 11 120 gem 3 epic purchases to mythic.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/84 "2020-05-07T20:52:37Z")

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> [@Lorien1973](#):
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> They should add the doomed weapon forge scrolls to the mix if they want to increase the buy rate. Likely nearly everyone needs/wants those.

Yes, but knowing them, they’ll do like 3 scrolls for 300 gems. I’d say save time and don’t bother programming that lol.

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**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/85 "2020-05-07T20:55:23Z")

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It’s 500 for 3 scrolls in the ToD shop (t7) so it’s a not a bad offer…

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/86 "2020-05-07T21:07:11Z")

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> [@xolid99](#):
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> I’ve not got any pet offers yet.

Do you have kingdoms in these situations?

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/e/de79fd6780a281733e60c33e7b6dd6eb2f8e6f37.jpeg)

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/3/f32cca20f7fac03c963957c91f6829e6c8e31423.jpeg)

You need to be specifically in a situation for a kingdom where the remaining roadblock to the next Power star is leveling up a pet (and I believe you need to have at least one copy of the pet that needs leveling already in inventory [not 100% sure on that though]).

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/87 "2020-05-07T21:14:22Z")

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> [@Lorien1973](#):
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> It’s 500 for 3 scrolls in the ToD shop (t7) so it’s a not a bad offer…

Tier 7 is pretty bad value for scrolls relative to every other Tier.

Tier 7: 3 scrolls for 500 gems (~166.67 gems)  
Tier 6: 8 scrolls for 500 gems (62.5 gems)  
Tier 5: 6 scrolls for 350 gems (~58.33 gems)  
Tier 4: 4 scrolls for 250 gems (62.5 gems)  
Tier 3: 3 scrolls for 150 gems (50 gems)

5500 gems per weapon at 100 gems per scroll… go for it I guess.

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**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/88 "2020-05-07T21:31:22Z")

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Looking at pets for Kingdoms.

- Stormheim I’m 2 of 2 due to F500 FF Keep. P17.
- Pan’s Vale I’m 1 of 2, but the missing one is the Faction one. One of 6 I’ve yet to do.
- Pridelands 1 of 2, but we don’t have 2 pets there yet.
- Shentang I did the faction team so am 1 of 1.
- Karakoth, my Myzmer is still Epic, I won’t double blue orb it, so not at stage for a pet to accelarate.
- Blighted Lands - I have not got the Doom troop to Mythic, just legendary, probably will leave that to gain naturally.
- Bright Forest - as above ^^
- Dragon’s Claw, GW troop not mythic
- Karakoth 3 at Mythic

So I don’t think I’m going to actually get a pet upgrade unless I use blue orbs or wait for the GW and Doom troops to naturally be ascendable. The issue here is I didn’t play from the start, so GW troops are still only nearly or just at legendary. I have 2 Mythic Dragon’s Claw pets, so that’s a waste anyway and Peryton is still Epic as well.

Looking at if I blue orb…

Blighted Lands with Wimp not mythic (only just released).  
Bright Forest I have 2 pets at Mythic.

So actually the only pet offer I could get (I think) would be Wimp in Blighted Lands, which is L5 🙂 If I blue orb the doom.

Yet I have 10 pets at legendary  
4 at Epic  
And an army at L5.

So, I don’t think I’m going to be offered those at this stage?

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**Author:** ![FREDDY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/freddy/32/63726_2.png) [@FREDDY](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/FREDDY)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/89 "2020-05-07T23:10:15Z")

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Deals need some customisation-otherwise they are just plain silly for a large % of players

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**Author:** ![Bernice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/bernice/32/76215_2.png) [@Bernice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bernice)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/90 "2020-05-08T11:08:52Z")

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Thanks so much @EliteMasterEric & @Redi1 for compiling all this information.

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**Author:** ![Redi1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/redi1/32/63215_2.png) [@Redi1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Redi1)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/91 "2020-05-08T13:37:40Z")

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I was going to wait until I had power orb and made that look better to use it but if someone wants a temporary visual version (potentially long term temporary version) here it is.

 ![gow_dailydeals](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/6/0655b5fbe72c86d4ead7998d5cf6a8f88854bd77.png)

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**Author:** ![Live](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/live/32/40596_2.png) [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/92 "2020-05-08T15:32:39Z")

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Do we also get troops deals for non myths or hero xp where the kingdom is allready maxxed?

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/93 "2020-05-08T18:54:01Z")

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> [@xolid99](#):
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> So, I don’t think I’m going to be offered those at this stage?

Unfortunately, yes.

When evaluating whether to offer a pet deal,

- Faction pets are _excluded_ from offers.
- Cosmetic pets are _excluded_ from offers.
- New general pets within the four week exclusive window _appear_ to be _excluded_ from offers.

On troops:

- Faction troops are _excluded_ from offers.
- Event unique reward troops (Guild War troops, Dooms) are _excluded_ from offers.
- Troops over Epic rarity are _excluded_ from offers (see Soulforge).

So for a pet offer to appear,

- The player must need a specific pet to reach the next Power star in a kingdom.
- An eligible pet must be available for the player to purchase that is assigned to that kingdom.
- Faction pets are not eligible to appear in daily deals.
- Cosmetic pets are not eligible to appear in daily deals.

As a result, there are quite a few kingdoms where two eligible pets are yet available to purchase via daily deals.

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**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/94 "2020-05-08T20:51:39Z")

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If devs want a more effective gem-sink, they really should make any pet not-yet-maxed available for purchase, regardless of what the player’s kingdom stars look like at that moment — same with any troops in the regular chest pool, honestly.

Everything needs to be mythic eventually 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Graeme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@Graeme](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Graeme)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/95 "2020-05-09T00:03:36Z")

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Seriously devs. I’m getting a bit tired of offers for chaos shards/ingots/jewels/medals. I have a lot of this stuff already thanks 😄

I dunno how your algorithm works in selecting the offers being given but still yet to see pets from them. Which is something I might spend gems on… 😉

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**Author:** ![Megaqwerty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/megaqwerty/32/58238_2.png) [@Megaqwerty](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Megaqwerty)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/96 "2020-05-09T04:45:51Z")

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> [@Lorien1973](#):
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> They should add the doomed weapon forge scrolls to the mix if they want to increase the buy rate.

Yes! You’re a genius. That said, forge scrolls might eventually not be an issue as TOD should eventually become a weekend event after the current weapon set is done and the weekend events might not have new weapons.

> [@Lyrian](#):
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> You need to be specifically in a situation for a kingdom where the remaining roadblock to the next Power star is leveling up a pet

I got a Manticub offer despite it not being the last requirement:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/0/2044e8f4c3134a7c932c4ea13990f4e2e741d250.jpeg)  
There may still be hope, @xolid99

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/97 "2020-05-09T08:04:59Z")

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I just got my hardest decision yet: 2 Deeds of Magic for 300 gems. On the one hand, 300 gems is a pretty big ask for just two deeds. On the other hand, Deeds of Magic have been the hardest to come by, and will take the longest to finish based on availability to date.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/98 "2020-05-09T08:17:39Z")

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I’ve gotten Deeds of Magic multiple times, but ignore it each and every time. We’re so far behind on Imperial Deeds that I just don’t see the point. The next faction is going to be Blighted Lands/Purple Deeds though, if you’re in dire need.

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 12:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/99 "2020-05-09T12:19:20Z")

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> [@Megaqwerty](#):
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> I got a Manticub offer despite it not being the last requirement:

It has to be A requirement, not the last. It can even be not achievable yet.

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**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wip-daily-deals-discussion-and-critique/63105/100 "2020-05-09T13:50:59Z")

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Given the spike in magical power lately (e.g. nysha, +1 magic from delves) 1 kingdom magic point isn’t as attractive as it used to be. There is already so much overkill in the game.

I’m not buying deeds for this reason - other than getting the 50% stat bonus, the 4 imperial deeds (which never seem to pop on the AB) is still the limiting factor.

If you think about the troops you use that REALLY need magic (leprechaun and a few other converters), you probably already have enough magic to perform their job efficiently enough.

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